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given apple's staggering profits, it seems unfair that none (or little) of it goes to support the open source software they rely on
- laurelrusswurm repeated this.
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#Apple doesn't *want* to rely on open source; the company has made that clear.
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@mcnalu this is the problem with the BSD license compared to the GPL license.
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@laurelrusswurm yes, quite ironic
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@sandersch indeed, without exception all my developer friends who formerly used linux (ubuntu) are apple'd up now and shun gpl for bsd
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@mcnalu that is sad.
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@laurelrusswurm @Mcnalu I have never been able to understand the BSD licence, it just seems to attract selfish sorts. (Apple/Tivo)
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@satipera I think the idea is allow all freedom... including freedom to restrict. the gpl freedom is restricted - cant make it unfree
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@laurelrusswurm This must have implications for the rate of development of the code.
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@laurelrusswurm I do not understand the process but just thought that if people are taking without giving back it must slow things down.
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I think the main reason why they chose !FreeBSD as a base was the license. They had never any intent of giving back to open source.
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@navigium yes, that's true. I was wondering whether the gpl has done much better for linux, eg has it benefited from android's success?
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@navigium if i recall correctly the tcp stack in windows is also from bsd origin for same reason, for me bsd license promotes nothing good.
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@navigium CUPS being the exception?
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@navigium I think so too, but to my point about apple - are contributors to linux getting any of android's profit back from htc, samsung etc
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How's that an exception? CUPS is under GPL except for the part that Apple doesn't want to give back to the community.
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I'm not sure how much developing is done by handset producers. So there isn't much to give back.
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@navigium that's another important point, but I was refer to money profits
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@navigium Apple owns the cups source code, they could discontinue support for the GPL version (but haven't)
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I think money-wise there are always freeloaders around. The only way to avoid that is to use a non-commercial license.
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Probably because they like it when people work for them for free. If they discontinued it, they risk a fork of CUPS.