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  1. Christopher Allan Webber Christopher Allan Webber

    Gatekeeper proves if we don't bring our core ideas past usual FOSS folks to general public, both FOSS & user freedom generally are fucked.

    about 3 months ago from web at Chicago, Illinois, United States
    • Taryn Fox likes this.
    • Máirín and Samat K Jain repeated this.
    • Christopher Allan Webber Christopher Allan Webber

      Outreach, both of use, involvement, but also ideals, more important than ever.

      about 3 months ago
    • Christopher Allan Webber Christopher Allan Webber

      (So I declare on identi.ca, FOSS circlejerk of the intarwebs)

      about 3 months ago
      Evan Prodromou likes this.
    • 1111aether 1111aether

      You're a redditor, do you think introducing ideals in certain venues does more damage than good (you just become a "them" to reinforce...

      about 3 months ago
      Christopher Allan Webber likes this.
    • Kete Foy Kete Foy

      @cwebber makes sense to declare here b/c you're saying we have to go elsewhere in addition

      about 3 months ago
    • 1111aether 1111aether

      ...their "us" mob mentality and as a result sully your ideals in the eyes of the general public?

      about 3 months ago
      Christopher Allan Webber likes this.
    • Christopher Allan Webber Christopher Allan Webber 1111aether

      Good questions. I think that's something that needs to be carefully considered in outreach.

      about 3 months ago
    • Christopher Allan Webber Christopher Allan Webber

      But at very least, a lot of our "core resources" are great, well thought out (eg, RMS' essays) but mostly just appeal to hackers/academics

      about 3 months ago
    • Christopher Allan Webber Christopher Allan Webber

      Starting there, working on resources which aim for a more broad audience but retain their core underlying ideals might not be a bad start.

      about 3 months ago
    • Christopher Allan Webber Christopher Allan Webber 1111aether

      Anyway @1111aether, you're right, it isn't easy to do things in a way that don't just push people back. But we've got to try :\

      about 3 months ago
    • 1111aether 1111aether

      I used to reddit under the name theriverofjustice, linked to a ton of RMS' &McLuhans writings, then I was branded poison, then it got to...

      about 3 months ago
    • 1111aether 1111aether

      the point where I couldn't open my mouth without being taken down (deleted user ITT being taken down by MPT) http://ur1.ca/8ah4t...

      about 3 months ago
    • Christopher Allan Webber Christopher Allan Webber 1111aether

      Sad to hear. I appreciated your reddit contributions (and comments on mediagoblin posts)! :)

      about 3 months ago
    • Christopher Allan Webber Christopher Allan Webber

      Apparently not everyone knows what gatekeeper is yet. http://ur1.ca/88je4

      about 3 months ago
    • 1111aether 1111aether 1111aether

      realised bc I was seen as"divisive"(so not!) and everything I said was,then I was doing harm by being the source of citations.So I stopped.

      about 3 months ago
    • 1111aether 1111aether 1111aether

      Tee hee..So yeah,I'm a fat neckbeard who's never kissed a girl and just jealous because my codes not good enough to get hired anywhere ;)

      about 3 months ago
      Christopher Allan Webber likes this.
    • 1111aether 1111aether

      lol! Nope, didn't know 'gatekeeper' was not meant literally. D'oh! Sorry :)

      about 3 months ago
    • Bassam Kurdali Bassam Kurdali

      @cwebber damn. Can't say didn't see this coming, but, major (forced) cultural shift for the worse. Next step: hardware to lock us out. uefi?

      about 3 months ago
    • Christopher Allan Webber Christopher Allan Webber

      Complete and totaly computing dystopia, here we come.

      about 3 months ago
    • Christopher Allan Webber Christopher Allan Webber Bassam Kurdali

      Soon even developers won't access their own OS, will just develop through web-based IDEs with SaaS build systems

      about 3 months ago
      Rob Myers likes this.
    • Tom Marble Tom Marble

      @cwebber That's ok b/c the developers *will* have access to all of their users private data (because the only button to start is ACCEPT)

      about 3 months ago
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    • Christopher Allan Webber Christopher Allan Webber Tom Marble

      Would be pretty great if that what the power button said even on these new devices

      about 3 months ago
    • Alexandre Oliva Alexandre Oliva

      eeek! ♻ @cwebber: Soon even developers won't access their own OS, will just develop through web-based IDEs with SaaS build systems

      about 3 months ago
    • Evan Prodromou Evan Prodromou

      And, y'know, proud of it.

      about 3 months ago
    • Evan Prodromou Evan Prodromou

      Hey, so, what's "Gatekeeper"? I'm kinda lost.

      about 3 months ago
    • Evan Prodromou Evan Prodromou Evan Prodromou

      Oh, the Mackertosh thing. Yes, I agree. Perfect is the enemy of the not-nightmarish.

      about 3 months ago
    • Mike Linksvayer Mike Linksvayer

      @cwebber memo to the circle: FLOSS has won http://mako.cc/copyrighteous/20091212-00

      about 3 months ago
    • Evan Prodromou Evan Prodromou Mike Linksvayer

      I believe that correcting other people's terminology lost.

      about 3 months ago
    • Christopher Allan Webber Christopher Allan Webber Mike Linksvayer

      I hate associating free software with a dental routine they feel guilty about not doing even though they know they should.

      about 3 months ago
    • Mike Linksvayer Mike Linksvayer

      @cwebber it is very much like that. I feel gross if I don't floss every day.

      about 3 months ago
    • tryggvib tryggvib

      @cwebber Aw man! Now I'll go and be all guilty everytime I hack on free software.

      about 3 months ago
    • Mike Linksvayer Mike Linksvayer

      mac attack i want my money back may seem cool may seem good quickest way to kill the neighborhood https://youtube.com/watch?v=U0XAcQKNLvc

      about 3 months ago

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