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@trashheap I had previously thought both Mac and Linux were around 5%, but I wanted to search b/c of recent iOS surge.
about a year ago from Choqok-
Why Linux on the Desktop Is Dead | PCWorld http://identi.ca/url/68328056
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@stevenrosenberg I agree with the comments (very irrelevant article). Also, #GNU has about as much "market share" as Mac OS.
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@stevenrosenberg sorry, I was wrong: "linux" is only 1-2% while apple (iOS & Mac) is about 10%.
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@trashheap I did a search and found a couple sources reporting that. One, Wikipedia, also had quite a few other sources somewhere near that.
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If you're counting iOS, shouldn't you also count Android/Linux? Point is moot anyway, as iOS isn't a (major) part of desktop market share.
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@trashheap w3schools might be exception. Most servers report less: 2tu.us/11bi 2tu.us/4xa1 2tu.us/4xa1
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@patrickniedzielski android fluctuates from about the same to a little more depending on site. mobile is significant b/c eclipsing desktops
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Well certainly mobile is important, but comparing GNU/Linux market share to iOS market share is comparing apples to oranges.
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@patrickniedzielski Oranges are way better than apples.
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You're from Florida. I sense some bias.
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@patrickniedzielski If market share was important to you, as it is to Canonical, why would you leave out iOS and Android?
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@patrickniedzielski Obviously Canonical wants to squash Apple and Google with their own tablet.
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@patrickniedzielski As for developers, if you're making an app or a website, you consider both the desktop and mobile devices.
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Again, comparing the market share of a desktop OS to that of mobile OSes is apples to oranges. It has no meaning.
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It's like comparing microwave ovens to toaster ovens, because microwave ovens encroached on the market of toaster ovens.
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But what if Linux was installed on the toaster? JUSTIFIED.
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Certainly you've seen this: http://ur1.ca/52ee :D
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Everyone's seen that. That was on my mind just as you were replying, actually.
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How about Linux installed on a dead human? Now *that* would be interesting.
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Cadaver Linux sounds like a cool distro. Probably runs GNOME 3, though. At least it means that dead bodies have good Linux drivers.
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@patrickniedzielski Then why does the last paragraph in "Why Linux on the Desktop Is Dead" mention mobile devices? b/c they're relevant
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Yes, but there's still no third eye support due to missing documentation. #damnit
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I think you're not understanding what I'm trying to say. Mobile isn't irrelevant.
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One simply can't combine the market share of products from two markets and meaningfully compare them with another product.
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Put another way, which is more: 5 meters plus 10 watts, or 6 meters?
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If only we had more developers working to reverse engineer ocular wetware!
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@patrickniedzielski They aren't 2 different markets. Why is (any) desktop losing market share? Mobile.
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@speeddefrost everyone but me! This is the funniest thing ive seen in a while!
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@patrickniedzielski Here is a chart that clarifies that relationship: Desktop → Mobile
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All jokes aside, I think the 1-2% percent claim is nothing more than paid-for corporate FUD. Another excuse for everyone to not support it.
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@kete Yes and no. Perhaps there is one overall market, but desktop and mobile do not directly compete Custs buying one don’t look at other
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Well, *mostly* everyone. Another laugh is always a good thing. :)
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@lnxwalt Some people buy both, but desktop sales are significantly down where Apple can claim post-PC world and outsale HP, Dell, etc.
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What @lnxwalt said. Also, something causing the shrinking of a market necessarily doesn't mean it's in the same market:
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A shrinkage in the market of biodiesel autos would cause a shrinkage in the corn market, but they aren't in the same market.
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One thing I've noticed with speaker claims in #Esperanto is that they vary by ~100x mainly because of starting premises.
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In other words, corporations can say that "only XXX counts as desktop usage," and base their studies on that.
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Some of the premises could possibly be justified, but when they aren't revealed, one can't trust the study.
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Just the usual FUD on Linux, paid by corporations. Nothing that we haven't seen before!.
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That's sort of my point. Measurement of almost any market will always be uncertain.
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That was my verbose, unnecessary way of agreeing. :)
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Verbosity is always welcome :)
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@patrickniedzielski You make very bad examples (autos are very different from corn) and I haven't understood your point. I guess I'm trolled
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Autos being very different from corn is my point. And thank you for calling me a troll. It's really nice of you.
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My point is that summing raw numbers of two different markets that may even be related somehow is really not meaningful.
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@patrickniedzielski I see your point though—that defining desktops can skew data, but I think you should have made it sooner.
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Okay, that's fair enough.
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@patrickniedzielski and of course I disagree but only see it as splitting hairs. also a tangent point to a wack article.
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Yes, the article is complete bullshit.
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