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- Jerry Williams likes this.
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@mbjunior where does that quote come from? It contradicts the AGPL…
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@marktraceur thanks. So it’s simply pulled out of context. @rms explicitely excludes Software as a Service ur1.ca/9136l ur1.ca/913wn
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Essentially, saying that while the *software* running the service might be free or not, you cannot copy the service itself. Complex stuff.
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@marktraceur @mbjunior jepp. And the four freedoms make sense for the software that’s used for the service, but not for the service itself
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@mbjunior if they don’t work without context, I think they should not be quoted, because that would distort what was said.
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Has this become reddit ?
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I need to re-read this; it's important, and I'm instinctually disappointed with it.
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I was referring to your reply style, not the service you use. So the answer to your question is "no".
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I think what's right is that "four freedoms" might not apply to network services, but saying "not an issue of free or non-free" seems wrong
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There are *serious* user freedom issues that aren't necessarily free as in free software. ;)
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@manu I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings.
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@manu Can I keep my reddit style, sweetheart?
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@evan That "cooking" analogy tastes a bit fallacious.
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Avoid assuming. I neither praised nor insulted identica, you didn't hurt my feelings, I didn't ask you to change and I never loved you.
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@manu Look into my eyes and say you don't love me anymore http://ur1.ca/91qbm #love
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Also, for @rms, the four freedoms don't apply to cultural works, and especially not to works of opinion. Go figure.
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I’m in agreement with @cwebber here. There might be more or fewer freedoms, or a diff conceptual basis, but user freedom issues remain.
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Additional remarks on [Debian -- News] http://ur1.ca/93k5q !fsf !debian #cloud #saas
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@arnebab Absolutely not, man. I was just horsing around :-) but I really think that quote wasn't pulled out of context that much.
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:) — I think it was pulled out of context, because it missed the part of not being about software as service.
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@rms sometimes fumbles in his theories.
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that’s what I meant, yes :) - though SaaS with AGPL is not…
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@mbjunior we all do…
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@carlopiana Lawyer detected :-)
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I never read the AGPL entirely. Am gonna do it now. http://ur1.ca/94jzu
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