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Ubuntu Can't Trust FSF's Secure Boot Solution http://bit.ly/M96HXl #Ubuntu #Secure #Boot #GNU #Linux
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- B. Ross Ashley, Eric Dean Barry, Muriithi Frederick Muriuki and Tenzin Dendup repeated this.
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@estevez121 they could: they would just have to publish a way to unlock your device.
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Without cooperation by the vendor they can't do that without publishing their signing key.
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@diesch - You should spend some time listening to this - http://ur1.ca/9qb4y
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42 minutes is a bit to much for that.
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@diesch Don't drink the Kool-Aid.
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@diesch could they not just say “if the vendor sells it illegally, the vendor loses the right to distribute it”?
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@diesch the *vendors* are not allowed to sell GPLv3 stuff in boxes on which people cannot install modifications.
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@arnebab This is the problem: Canonical doesn't *want* to say that. They would rather just allow the vendors to keep se…
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@diesch Canonical can just give the vendors unlocked devices. To lock down the devices, the vendors have to provide a way to unlock.
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@toksyuryel phrased differently: Canonical wants to allow vendors to take away my freedoms by exploiting a weakness in GPLv2.
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@arnebab It's not that they want to do that, it's that they view that as an acceptable outcome if it means they can sell more units.
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@toksyuryel so they don’t mind selling my freedoms. Quite the opposite: They actively work to enable others to do so.
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@toksyuryel it would be easier for them to simply use GPLv3 software. They choose not to, because they prefer enabling others to betray me.
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@toksyuryel Never trust a company → http://ur1.ca/9qo4y — they have to take money first.
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@toksyuryel If you speak German: My resolution: Economy is always war—as much as we customers allow it: http://ur1.ca/9qo53 !politik
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@arnebab They value profit over freedom, that's all it's ever been and they've been doing it for years. Maybe more peop…
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@arnebab @toksyuryel Well - in a capitalist system companies are expected to primarily care for their profit. In my opi…
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@hakupony @arnebab The key mistake of capitalism is that it places profit above ethics. But companies still have the ab…
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@toksyuryel I wouldn't call it a mistake per se - it values efficiency above all else and this what it achieves. The pr…
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@toksyuryel they value their profit over the freedom of their users…
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@hakupony debian manages to avoid that - because they are organized democratically. I hope more and more people will remember this…
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@arnebab Exactly.
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@hakupony I call it a mistake; ethics should always be the top priority in any economic system.
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@arnebab I'm not sure... democratic organisation does not inherently mean that the decitions are ethically good. I don'…
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@toksyuryel The other position would be that the reason for an economic system would be to organise the production and …
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@hakupony I contend that aggregate joy is less important than minimum joy.
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„Sehen Lehrer Schüler bei Aktionen, die zu Sex führen *könnten* und stoppen sie nicht, können sie verklagt werden“ …USA → ur1.ca/9qof8
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@hakupony democratic organizations inherently do what the folks who vote consider right. Competition mainly forces you to follow the rich…
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@hakupony For some background see the brief history on plutocracy: ur1.ca/9qofo
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@hakupony (democracy fails where the voters have wrong information, for example from rich-owned monopolistic mass-media…
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@arnebab You know - for reasons like this you could call me a socialist
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@hakupony maybe just call you a real democrat: wanting uncorrupted democracy?
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