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On !FaiFCast 0x2E, @bkuhn & @kaz play & discuss @mlinksva's !FOSDEM 2012 talk about public policy & !CC 4.0: http://ur1.ca/9skl2
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(I haven't listened yet but will later today, probably with much embarrassment)
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@maiki if that is referring to what I think it is, it has mostly just been IRL conversations. #havenotlistenedyet
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I disagree with Kuhn's sentiment that people like a totalitarian state. Besides the obvious, the observation comes from…
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That is why it is so important for free culture to be more inclusive. We have leverage, we just need to lower the barri…
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@maiki I don't remember what I said, but http://wiki.creativecommons.org/4.0/ShareAlike#ShareAlike_scope ... not that it is up to date.
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Listening now, most boring FaiFcast opening chatter ever! :)
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I apologize for and am sickened by my starting any sentences with "so," http://anand.ly/articles/so-pushes-to-the-head-of-the-line
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@mlinksva Linus Torvalds starts all his blog posts with "so" if that is any consolation :-)
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So, I am not sure I accept yer apology. I may be biased, of course. So, yeah.
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@maiki ...extent failure to promote floss'n'freeculture to other communities is the wrong ppl (eg me) talking to the wrong ppl (eg...
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@mlinksva As long as it's not "and so but..."...
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@maiki ... establishment/privileged/representatives/NGOs rather than those net harmed by enclosure)
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I also have a #CC IRC credit card story http://gondwanaland.com/mlog/2006/01/15/cc-pi/ :)
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Mike Linksvayer
Creative Commons
, FOSDEM
, Free as in Freedom
, Bradley M. Kuhn
, Richard Stallman Political Notes
@bkuhn when did @rms ever argue against NC and ND??? I wish!
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Mike Linksvayer
Creative Commons
, FOSDEM
, Free as in Freedom
, Bradley M. Kuhn
, Mike Linksvayer
, karen sandler
Very happy with FaiFCast 0x2E http://ur1.ca/9skl2 appreciate @bkuhn and @kaz thoughtful discussion of many of the issues I brought up. Thx!
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@johnnynull So what?
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@jpope @johnnynull "so what?" not what I'm talking about. "[so, ]blah blah blah" is.
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@mlinksva So, you don't like using "so" as a thought buffer at the beginning of a sentence? ;-)
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So, this is an example of the sentence that @mlinksva was referring too. :-P
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@jpope so it has come to this ;)
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Zing!
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So La Ti Do
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Your comments are interesting. It is a running joke, I guess. ^_^
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@mlinksva due entirely to exhaustion slept thru part of your talk at #FOSDEM so happy to hear in full. Very good, wish you'd had > 30 min
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@bkuhn I am for ND to in literary works, not much for NC, although I acknowledge there may be reasons. FWIW
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@fontana thanks. your talk was also very good. but doing something about it is excellent. :)
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@mlinksva so, what do you have against starting sentences like this? :-)
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@thistleweb heh, glad I checked the context, I was about to post the same.
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@lxoliva :) "'^So, ' uses the whiff of logic to relay authority" http://gondwanaland.com/mlog/2011/01/08/business-model-punch/
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I just listened; really liked it. Except @bkuhn needs to buck up. It's gonna be OK!
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Yes, re sampling+devnations (but not sampling+, ha). Anyway, those 2 may've had other tiffs, but not about NC or ND.
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@carlopiana,I've decided that I don't know enough about what the moral implications of literary work licensing to have a moral position here
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@evan, it's helpful to read that. I'm glad you're in my corner. I do indeed hope it will be ok, but preparing for it not to be. :)
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@bkuhn computer programs are literary works http://ur1.ca/9su65 :-)
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@fontana, I wasn't speaking based on what copyright circulars say, but rather the common parlance of what literary work means (e.g., novels)
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@bkuhn so you don't agree with me that software is essentially an experimental form of poetry?
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@fontana you have seriously just blown my mind.
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!notatroll ♺ @fontana: @bkuhn so you don't agree with me that software is essentially an experimental form of poetry?
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@fontana absolutely. all code is infused with the personality of its creator.
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@fontana,Indeed,I presented a !Perl poem to my programming languages class on 1993-04-21, according to my electronic undergrad file archives
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@bkuhn did it run and also sound poetic?
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The only opinion I trust on this matter belongs to @x11r5
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Of course code is poetry! I heard it in a book. code-poems.com
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Finally listened to this and enjoyed it, but esp the CC0 dedication + #vaguejokes exceptions
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