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1. Richard Fontana clojure , disturbing

   Somewhat !disturbing that #leiningen pre-selects #EPL for you !clojure #hmm

   about 11 months ago from web
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   • Tom Marble clojure , disturbing

     @fontana indeed. The Clojure culture is even more permissive minded than that choice would suggest (generally)

     about 11 months ago
   • Richard Fontana clojure , disturbing , Tom Marble

     @tmarble http://ur1.ca/9v93j

     about 11 months ago
   • Tom Marble clojure , disturbing

     I'm sorry about that… a teaching moment has been lost. Separately I've been thinking about creating copyleft Clojure libraries.

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   • Richard Fontana clojure , disturbing , Tom Marble

     @tmarble highly #disturbing experience - then again doesn't seem so disturbing as to make one want to use #maven

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   • Richard Fontana clojure , Tom Marble

     @tmarble well I've decided to meet the !Clojure community halfway and make #copyleft-next #EPL compatible

     about 11 months ago
   • Tom Marble clojure

     @fontana interesting.. can CLN be used to create a combined work with EPL code (see thread on list)?

     about 11 months ago
   • Mike Linksvayer disturbing

     @fontana what is disturbing about project creation tool defaulting to most common license in community? Seems very reasonable to me.

     about 11 months ago
   • Mike Linksvayer disturbing

     @fontana outbound? is EPL US-derivative-work copyleft less strong than "based on...such that permission required"? that could be !disturbing

     about 11 months ago
   • Richard Fontana GNU's Not Unix , The GNU General Public License , Mike Linksvayer

     @mlinksva how would you (or others) feel if !GNU #Emacs placed a !GPLv3 notice at the top of each source file edited therewith?

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   • Richard Fontana disturbing , Mike Linksvayer

     @mlinksva potentially confusing to user of #Leiningen : might think there is ©-based requirement to use #EPL. Distorts marketplace of ideas

     about 11 months ago
   • Richard Fontana disturbing , Mike Linksvayer

     @mlinksva It would require weakening of #copyleft-next copyleft, I think (barring future change in EPL 2.0)

     about 11 months ago
   • Richard Fontana clojure , Mike Linksvayer

     @mlinksva it can interfere with natural evolution of license preferences in !clojure community

     about 11 months ago
   • Mike Linksvayer

     @fontana what is this "natural" evolution you posit? canard I say. why exclude defaults in tools as an evolutionary mechanism?

     about 11 months ago
   • Mike Linksvayer GNU's Not Unix , The GNU General Public License

     @fontana if there is an Emacs-based skeleton generator for some language or framework predominantly using GPLv3, sounds good.

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   • Mike Linksvayer disturbing

     @fontana I don't see benefit, unless indeed quid pro quo for EPL 2.0 bilateral, and thus GPL compatibility.

     about 11 months ago
   • Richard Fontana GNU's Not Unix , The GNU General Public License , Mike Linksvayer

     @mlinksva just strikes me as the licensing equivalent of peer pressure, at best.

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   • Richard Fontana disturbing , Mike Linksvayer

     @mlinksva that is not a bad idea... I had a similar thought myself, though less well-formed.

     about 11 months ago
   • Mike Linksvayer GNU's Not Unix , The GNU General Public License

     @fontana or, a behavioral-economics-libertarian-paternalist nudge.

     about 11 months ago