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.@forteller @csolisr @jankusanagi @chriswaterguy so, here's the plan's draft: http://rys.io/en/88 !identica !diaspora !statusnet discuss!
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@rysiek xmpp/email/and ONE of sn/diaspora/friendica is trivial and already happening.
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@encycl I know. but a). it should be e-mail, XMPP, sn AND Diaspora/Friendica (the user doesn't have to use it all, it just should be there)
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@encycl b). Step 1. is precondition; real work is in executing Step 2. this is what I want to get rolling, soon.
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@rysiek the problem is the port issue right? since sn/d/f are all web services...so could you move the ports?
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@rysiek Friendica > Diaspora. Mainly because Friendica can add contacts from Diaspora, StatusNet, and even Twitter/Facebook.
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@encycl you mean, port as in 80/tcp and 443/tcp? yeah, it probably is an issue that needs adressing (pun intended); there are ways, though.
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@csolisr I know. I would prefer to get some feedback on the general idea, and not get into bikeshedding... bit.ly/SsnEDk
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@rysiek mumble can also be added. We have people doing that on parlementum already...4 services with the same user@domain
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@encycl Mumble, got it! @csolisr will look close on that, thanks. problem: how to get web-based services working on a single domain.
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@csolisr XMPP can handle videochat but requires both users' clients to support it.
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@rysiek @encycl One may add #SeeksSearch for web search, #MediaGoblin for media hosting, #Etherpad (or better) for collaborative documents
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@rysiek @encycl Sorry, that one didn't work as intended. Just point your browsers to http://jpope.org/
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@rysiek I found a nice app that can be added to the stack: http://ur1.ca/aes51
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@rysiek Seems to me like you're describing oStatus and the Freedombox? http://is.gd/KpJjgb @csolisr @jankusanagi @chriswaterguy
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@rysiek I'd say that the question is this: How do we get network creators to implement oStatus and… @csolisr @jankusanagi @chriswaterguy
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@forteller Exactly! Basically, what @rysiek should make is a public #FreedomBox, without the box.
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@rysiek …How do we help the Freedombox reach their goal ASAP (spread the word, more devs, donations…) @csolisr @jankusanagi @chriswaterguy
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@encycl reminds me... did you ever check on the parle mumble server?
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@jim no, and I'm wiped out today. Can you text me in the morning tomorrow and I'll poke around.
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@encycl ok. It's not a huge deal so no worries
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The fastest way would be to knock them upside the head until they produce a virtual virtual image.
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Great discussion. Basic questions: How much of this isn't in !Friendica already? Do we have feedback from Friendica Mike?
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I am sceptical that TOR access is a priority. Having it is nice, but the TORnet is still so slow it'll likely make the whole stack look bad.
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@pettter it would not be the *only* mode of access. but it should be there for those that wish to use it.
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@csolisr great. I would love to get some more perspective and info on it.
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@csolisr Etherpad I have in my extended wishlist (plus some spreadsheet solutions); MediaGoblin and SeeksSearch (or Yacy) - good ideas!
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@csolisr true, but why not put Wordpress there. It would just make sense. Added to my wishlist. ;)
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@forteller well, yes and no. Step 1 is kinde-sorta FreedomBox, but it *is* also aimed at communities being able to create their own solution
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@forteller first, all major FLOSS NGOs should throw their weight behind a single ublogging and a single social media protocol.
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@forteller FreedomBox is more ambitious than my Step 1. I think promoting creation of services that people can subscribe to/et (like the
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@forteller ...@telecomix cluster) is a faster way for now. when we get them out of the walled-gardens, moving them to private FreedomBoxes
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@forteller would be helluva lot easier. one step at a time! ;)
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@forteller once upon a time there was http://status.net/wiki/SpreadStatusNet/Support maybe we could restart it? also: #advocacy
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@rysiek step 1=many steps, years. Shorter: promote SN as spam^wdissemination method http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE style, more OStatus impl
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@mlinksva I was able to create a POC installation a'la Step 1 in just a few months in my previous job. dissmeination - yes, v.important.
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Wow! I love this. The #prisonbreak idea is awesome. I'll help if I can somehow! And thanks for reminding me about setti…
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There are some good user insights and thoughts on decentralized networks on the Hacker News discussion related to the release of Tent v0.1.
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That would be here: http://ur1.ca/aez6r
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@ulvulv thanks. one question (rhethorical one, probably): *why* another protocol? srsly, why not OStatus... -_-'
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@ulvulv the fuck? bit.ly/PUuKg2 "Copyright © 2012 by Apollic Software, LLC. All rights reserved" -_-'
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@rysiek I wanted to say 'talk about hipocrysy', but I noticed info about it on their website (bottom) http://tent.io/
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@cyberkiller I will believe it when I see it...
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@forteller @csolisr @jankusanagi @mmm @mlinksva @chriswaterguy @encycl #PrisonBreak updated with Step 0. http://rys.io/en/88
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@ulvulv Oh gosh, all the wanking about how HTTP is the only thing because TCP/80 is the only thing that can/should be open *facepalm*
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@rysiek Don't know. The web page only said they had considered the other alternatives, not what they felt was lacking.
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@ulvulv Lack of private messages IIRC
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They talk about it here: https://github.com/tent/tent.io/issues/4 There are also a few other issues with interesting discussion.
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@rysiek @forteller @jankusanagi @chriswaterguy @encycl @jpope Time for some collaborative text edition! http://ur1.ca/af31n
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@march Yeah. I mostly built that list single handedly. It's of vital importance to have 3rd party support, and I'm a bit bummed out that…
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@march …the list wasn't pushed/supported much more by StatusNet themselves. Should've had a big campaign to get apps to support SN/oStatus!
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@forteller oh, sorry, didn't want to tease you, didn't check history, just remembered that list. so thank /you/ for it and let's restart it!
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@march Nah, no problem, man! I'm just happy someone remembers it! :D Yeah, I agree we should restart it! But needs official support from SN!
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