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@evan apologies if you've posted this already. Is there a reason to move to #Apache for new project?
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I'm not sure what you mean.
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@evan saw apache license in new project github repo. maybe I was mistaken. sorry!
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Oh! I didn't understand your question. pump.io is actually moving *away* from the Apache httpd server and *to* the Apache 2.0 license.
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For "projects that implement free standards that are competing against proprietary standards", "widespread use of the code is vital".
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"In these special situations where copyleft is not appropriate, we recommend the Apache License 2.0."
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@evan ok, I see you've got gospel backing you up ;-)
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"The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose."
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@evan oh! I understand now. I had misunderstood the project. Perfectly clear now. Thanks!
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At this point I feel like I don't have a choice.
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I am curious if that license change will cause more people using the code. Or that the code is now using Node.js instead of PHP.
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I am happy to be using AGPL with MediaGoblin, but I agree it's a good choice for pump.io to be under Apache2 for standards adoption reasons.
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@fontana are you sure you wouldn't have gone with CC0 with a patent-waiving addendum #trulynotatroll
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@fontana You should make a permissive extension/exception to copyleft.next.
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@cwebber I am considering that
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@fontana if you're accepting contributions from others, isn't it better to have a clear patent clause for those contributions?
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Hey, stranger! I'm curious if that's going to play out, too.
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I think that as far as hosting goes, the next best thing to the LAMP stack is NodeJS.
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Whether building on the Fixie stack (NodeJS, NoSQL, HTML5) in 2013 is going to be as big a draw for developers as I hope is yet to be seen.
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@evan Why is that? (I'm not criticizing the license choice – just interested in the rationale details.)
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@evan, if you believe you'll get proprietary network services to adopt pump.io & ∴ allow federation, permissive makes sense. Are you sure?
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@fontana, why don't you just start the permissive-next project instead? Copyleft is copyleft, not permissive. :)
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@bkuhn Yeah, it'll never work. Take email for example: copy-left FTW!
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@fmarier I suppose that is the conventional wisdom these days
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@bkuhn copyleft is much more permissive than proprietary
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@fontana yeah, the GPL is a strictly permissive license, but not a lax permissive license. make it copylax-next? ;-)
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