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  1. Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn The GNU General Public License

    Wow,attorneys are announcing publicly on FLOSS Foundations list that they'll sue me for libel if ever I say their clients are violating !GPL

    about 5 months ago from web
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    • nds nds

      seems like a pretty extreme strategy. But maybe that is a good sign if corps view allegations of GPL violations as harmful to their image

      about 5 months ago
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    • Aidan Delaney Aidan Delaney

      @bkuhn They must think that non-compliance with the GPL is worth more than just monatary damage. There's reputational damage too.

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    • mcnalu mcnalu

      @bkuhn I'm sure you'll remind them that libel involves making a statement which is untrue.

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    • Simon Phipps Simon Phipps

      That statement is constructed from partial information. Only 2 two attorneys are involved & they were reacting to an accusation.

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      postblue postblue

      Commonly named “threats” ; I think threats are commonly illegal, too. ;)

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    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Simon Phipps

      @webmink, actually, *no* accusations had been made; I just pointed that out as well. But indeed only 1 attorney brought up "libel".

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    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn The GNU General Public License , Aidan Delaney

      @balor, indeed, this is why "going public" naming !GPL violators is aggressive strategy only to be used as a penultimate resort, IMO.

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    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn The GNU General Public License , postblue

      @postblue,eh,I get threats nearly every month re: !GPL enforcement. A lot of ppl want it to end & pursue aggressive strategies to stop it.

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    • Simon Phipps Simon Phipps

      If we were free to disclose the name involved I suspect many would be less surprised, too.

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    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Simon Phipps

      @webmink, actually we *can* disclose names. (I wonder if you think FLOSS Foundations has #CHR; it doesn't) But I see no reason to name names

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    • Simon Phipps Simon Phipps

      Hence I suggest your original statement could be classified as hyperbole...

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    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Simon Phipps

      I'll agree w/ you on that. My original statement here was indeed hyperbole,inspired by how flabbergasted I was by what seemed like a threat

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    • Simon Phipps Simon Phipps

      I always treat it as CHR even though it is possible to find public archives.

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    • Simon Phipps Simon Phipps

      You're in good company if that's any comfort.

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    • silner silner Simon Phipps

      @webmink now you're driving me to search engine :)

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    • Simon Phipps Simon Phipps silner

      Let me know if you find search engine hits; there shouldn't really be any...

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    • silner silner Simon Phipps

      @webmink I'm not having any luck so far

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    • Simon Phipps Simon Phipps silner

      I'm actually relieved :-)

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    • Richard Fontana Richard Fontana The GNU General Public License

      @bkuhn more than one attorney?

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      tekk tekk Richard Fontana

      @fontana I have a vague recollection of him being unambiguous wrt. being plural on a faif episode. I can go through and check.

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    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Simon Phipps

      @webmink, do you have an independent research to understand what CHR means for non-time-boxed, electronically archived discussions?

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    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Simon Phipps

      @webmink, wait, I'm in good company being flabbergasted, or using hyperbole, or both? If you mean re: flabbergasted, yes, it's some comfort.

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    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Richard Fontana

      @fontana, No, I addressed that later in the thread. Plural was in error. Only one attorney said "libel". He seems to have retracted it.

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      1111aether 1111aether

      Joplin once said: "Freedom's just another word for nothing left to loose". I've got nothing but a big mouth, just sayin…

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    • Simon Phipps Simon Phipps

      No; I just treat it instinctively.

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    • Simon Phipps Simon Phipps

      Something else to discuss over that beer at FOSDEM I think :-)

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    • Evan Prodromou Evan Prodromou

      So strange that anyone expects Free Software licenses to go unenforced.

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    • laurelrusswurm laurelrusswurm Evan Prodromou

      @evan Perhaps because some don't think freedom is worth fighting for

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    • Mike Linksvayer Mike Linksvayer Evan Prodromou

      Assume a silent 'always' or it's the least strange expectation ever.

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    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Simon Phipps

      @webmink, you keep saying that, but I think you forget that I don't drink beer at all. :)

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    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn The GNU General Public License , Evan Prodromou

      @evan, I don't think anyone expects that, but opponents of copyleft have realized ∃ just a few squeeze points to thrwart !GPL enforcement.

      about 5 months ago
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    • Evan Prodromou Evan Prodromou

      @bkuhn I will drink your beer for you.

      about 5 months ago
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    • Mikael Mikael The GNU General Public License

      @bkuhn so they think violating the GPL is a very bad action then. ;)

      about 5 months ago
    • Richard Fontana Richard Fontana Mike Linksvayer

      @mlinksva indeed

      about 5 months ago
    • Bob Jonkman Bob Jonkman

      Can someone expand the abbreviation #CHR ?

      about 5 months ago
    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Bob Jonkman

      #CHR is designed for time-boxed in-person meetings: ur1.ca/9ija2 I think its application to mailing list communication is highly complex.

      about 5 months ago
    • Bob Jonkman Bob Jonkman

      Thx @bkuhn! #CHR==Chatham House Rule; meeting where ppl are free to use info presented, but keep names&orgs confidential http://ur1.ca/9ija2

      about 5 months ago

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