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http://ur1.ca/ck6i4 is the stupidest idea I've seen all day. Passive, disrespectful, and sends the wrong message. #InternetFreedomDay
- Evan Prodromou repeated this.
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I'm on the Internet of Makers. I don't know which one you're on.
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II'm on the Internet of Makers. I don't know which one you're on. #InternetFreedomDay
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@evan agree mostly, but why is it disrespectful? To whom?
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http://ur1.ca/ck6ir Is the family of MLK *really* the Big Bad right now? A threat to Internet freedom? #InternetFreedomDay
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To Martin Luther King and his family.
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@evan rhetoric aside (by FftF), sharing that speech doesn't seem disrespecful, opposite in fact.
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@evan I differentiate between unlawful and disrespectful (one is not always the other, see plagiarism and (C) infringement).
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May also be an opportunity to show there's shared oppression, eg the documentary about MLK held back by copyright on "Happy Birthday"
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A14801-2005Jan16.html Article about that
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@greg making MLK's family the bad guy is disrespectful.
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@cwebber is that a fair comparison? Really?
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@evan is it not a fair comparison? I think MLK's family is not the bad guy, and I think the statement I made tried to avoid saying such?
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@evan That said, I agree that there is risk of misinterpretation of intended message, so it may be a bad idea with the right intentions.
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@cwebber Fight to distribute copyrighted works against the creator's wishes feels less important than the fight for basic civil rights.
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@evan It's often a mistake to blame copyright holders because they live in a culture where copyright is seen as required
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@cwebber is think there are some interesting questions but too esoteric to make the cornerstone of a big pr push.
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Didn't say fight for civil rights morally equiv to (C) battles, I pointed out two instances of (C) blocking distributing MLK's message.
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I originally thought that's what you meant, making copyright fights equivalent of civil right fights in significance, and I agreed
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Then the issue turned to the violation of the copyright itself; that's where I disagreed.
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@evan cringey PR, lots of interesting questions. eg yr ago identi.ca/conversation/88038853 and gondwanaland.com/mlog/2012/01/16/mlk-remix/
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The problem is not to accept there being mutually exclusive belief systems; it's how to perpetuate conversation between groups holding them.
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w/ mutually exclusive belief systems, the other will count as "strange" or "irrational". How to perpetuate conversations here?
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"Differences in opinions are only possible given a huge set of shared opinions" (Donald Davidson) Otherwise it would be incomprehension.
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@simsa0 Difficult given this one hits so closely. The opinion really doesn't matter once the end is passed
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BTW, fear that MLK's family will be mistakenly made into the bad guy seems to be well founded: http://ur1.ca/cknq4
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http://ur1.ca/cknqb I left a response, which has a lot of mirrors to http://ur1.ca/1 conversation.
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@cwebber MLK family does have a history of keeping tight reins on his legacy. There efforts even helped steer GA's right of publicity laws.
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I will admit that I am totally uninformed on that topic.
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