Notices by Hippy Steve (exador23), page 2
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@exador23 in psychic response to your query - no. cloud and brainbird posts are not arriving on identica. group posts are an exception.
Monday, 21-Nov-11 01:07:52 UTC from web -
how many of y'all concerned @ freedom have offered to lend a hand? If all tools needed to pass a libre purity test, nothing would get done.
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So is your complaint that there are many issues? Why does this bother you so much? Is this just a semantic academic discussion?
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It is one of many issues. all of which have been ignored for a long time, including endless petitions that merely get patronizing responses.
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Those arrested peacefully are not complaining. Those abused are complaining, and it is effective. Now, what is your real issue here?
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Exercising Free Speech is not a last resort effort. Refusing orders to end said exercise of rights is just, and is civil disobedience.
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they purposely disobeyed Parks & Rec Dept rules that are in direct conflict with the constitution. Why does this bother you so much?
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They actively refused to vacate public space where they assembled to petition for a redress of grievances. what's NOT to understand?
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but call it whatever you like. I don't care. and neither do the protesters.
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"Civil disobedience is the active, professed refusal to obey certain laws, demands, and commands of a govt, or of an occupying intl power."
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and there is precedent http://ur1.ca/5varn
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A prime goal is overturning Citizens United. If $=speech and $=property, tents as property = free speech.
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The protesters arrested in Oakland at the latest raid are not complaining about police abuse, because the police responded reasonably.
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the anti-war movement was not about the misuse of firearms. (kent state)
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The civil rights movement was not about the misuse of firehoses either.
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Maybe the frothing free software crowd will get their chance at civil disobedience with this one http://ur1.ca/5va8x
Wednesday, 16-Nov-11 18:36:51 UTC from web -
the quote only says jail is the place for a just man, nothing about suffering in silence. CD is a tool for ~attention~ on injustice.
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@gomerx Please point me to the Thoreau, Ghandi, of MLK, Jr directive "Thou Shalt not Whine"
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@gomerx by that logic, people who download or remix copyrighted material shouldn't whine when they get arrested.
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showed up after reply. maybe just a slave database issue?
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