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    Joshua Judson Rosen Joshua Judson Rosen busybox

    #Wanted: a patch to make !busybox's klogd work around #glibc's #pigheaded interpretation of openlog(..., LOG_KERN); https://bugs.busybox.net/show_bug.cgi?id=643

    about 2 days ago from status.hackerposse.com
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      Joshua Judson Rosen Joshua Judson Rosen busybox

      #Wanted: a patch to make !busybox's klogd work around #glibc's #pigheaded interpretation of openlog(..., LOG_KERN).

      about 2 days ago from status.hackerposse.com
      • P. J. McDermott P. J. McDermott Free Software , busybox

        The best warranty disclaimer I've ever seen is that of the !BusyBox Web site: http://ur1.ca/7qplc !FS

        about 4 months ago from web
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        • Carlos Solís repeated this.
      • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn busybox , Richard Fontana

        I'm sorry to tell Bruce again, as I've said to his face, the thing that we think about as !BusyBox is Erik Andersen's vision, not Bruce's.

        about 4 months ago from web
        • Lars Wirzenius Lars Wirzenius Bradley M. Kuhn

          @bkuhn does https://lwn.net/Articles/456243/ mean what I think it means? that the gplv2 death penalty is meaningless?

          about 9 months ago from Gwibber
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          • silner silner Bradley M. Kuhn , Jos Poortvliet

            @bkuhn As I said to @jospoortvliet that system would seem to invalidate all licence changes; not just the GPL?

            about 9 months ago
          • Kevin Granade Kevin Granade Harald Welte

            @laforge I'd think that would only apply up to the point where the company decides to not use #GPL code at all.

            about 9 months ago
          • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn busybox , The GNU General Public License , Harald Welte

            @laforge, I'd point out as well: there would be little !GPL compliance on #Linux in USA if not for #FSF & !BusyBox ©ers using v2§4 this way.

            about 9 months ago
        • Denver Gingerich Denver Gingerich

          Peter Vescuso recommends managers/lawyers choose b/w #BusyBox and #Toolbox (based on license), not developers (technical basis). #BlackDuck

          about 10 months ago from web at Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
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          • Denver Gingerich Denver Gingerich Bradley M. Kuhn

            @bkuhn Yes, he did acknowledge that #Toolbox was technically inferior (not sure how inferior), but implied avoiding #GPL more important.

            about 10 months ago
          • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn The GNU General Public License

            @ossguy, but the whole point is one can't avoid !GPL entirely w/ #Android b/c it depends completely on #Linux. Such a weird position.

            about 10 months ago
          • Kevin Granade Kevin Granade Bradley M. Kuhn

            @bkuhn one reason I was able to come up with was that they can stick proprietary bits in non-GPL software and not tell anyone about them.

            about 10 months ago
        • Neustradamus Neustradamus busybox

          !BusyBox 1.19.0 (dev) has been released

          about 10 months ago from web
          • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Software Freedom Conservancy , busybox , The GNU General Public License

            Headed upstairs soon for a hearing in !Conservancy & #Andersen's current !GPL violation lawsuit re: !BusyBox. I still enjoy going to Court.

            about 10 months ago from mustard
            • x1101 x1101

              @bkuhn have I mentioned that worries me?

              about 10 months ago
            • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn The GNU General Public License , Richard Fontana

              @fontana, I'm confused: what does doing !GPL enforcement have the #Establishment? The Establishment opposes GPL enforcement!

              about 10 months ago
            • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Richard Fontana

              @fontana,ah,you meant "holding court", not the federal district. Yes, members of the #Establishment do hold court. I've been known to, even.

              about 10 months ago
          • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Free Software Foundation , Simon Phipps

            @webmink, you're misrepresenting !FSF's position. FSF has published various suggestions for for-profit ©AAs to make them similar to FSF's.

            about a year ago from web
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            • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Software Freedom Conservancy , copyright , busybox , The GNU General Public License , Ted Smith

              @tedks, only way it works is if you form an org to be a !copyright enforcement agent. e.g., !Conservancy does this for !BusyBox re: !GPLv2.

              about a year ago
            • Alexandre Oliva Alexandre Oliva

              @bkuhn err, that's not how I understand GPLv3 section 11. initial © holder fits “contributor” definition, thus grants patent license

              about a year ago
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            • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn The GNU General Public License , Alexandre Oliva

              @lxoliva, well, indeed, the © holder is granting something along w/ the license, but only enforcement hook if they fail is usual !GPL ones.

              about a year ago
          • Allison Randal Allison Randal Richard Fontana

            @fontana Right now, legalese is the tool we've got for engineering away the inequality. I hope we can build better tools in the future.

            about a year ago from web
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            • Allison Randal Allison Randal Richard Fontana

              @fontana Because the designer put it there by default. Waiting on a decision from the group about CC licensing for the website content.

              about a year ago
            • Simon Phipps Simon Phipps

              @allisonrandal CC0 license seems obvious given there is no "Project Harmony" entity.

              about a year ago
            • Allison Randal Allison Randal Richard Fontana

              @fontana Copyright on the website content is owned by the people who contributed it. (No contrib agreement yet for Harmony contributors.)

              about a year ago
          • The Linux Foundation The Linux Foundation

            #yoctoproject panel is beginning. Collaboration just makes sense for embedded Linux, says panelists. #linux #lfcollab

            about a year ago from web at San Francisco, California, United States
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            • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Linux , Android OS

              Good pt by #yocotoproject: Ppl chose !Android b/c it's popular,when they'd do better w/ traditional embedded !Linux-based system. #lfcollab

              about a year ago
            • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn The GNU General Public License

              Hrm, absolutely no Q&A allowed at the #yoctoproject keynote. My opportunity to troll regarding !GPL compliance stuff is gone. #lfcollab

              about a year ago
            • Jason Riedy Jason Riedy Bradley M. Kuhn

              @bkuhn As is their opportunity to learn.

              about a year ago
          • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn busybox , The GNU General Public License , Richard Fontana

            @fontana, I don't think the !GPLv2 is by itself a #CLA. I think if what I write when posting patches to !BusyBox was required, it'd be CLA.

            about a year ago from web
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            • Michael V. Antosha Michael V. Antosha Richard Fontana

              @fontana @bkuhn FYI /me understood nothing from your discussion except that #CLA is "Contributor License Agreement" or something...

              about a year ago
            • diablomarcus diablomarcus Richard Fontana

              @fontana even to eachother ;)

              about a year ago
            • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Richard Fontana , Michael V. Antosha

              @mivael, my debate w/ @fontana was very esoteric. Summary: "Some #CLAs are good, some are bad. @fontana thinks good ones aren't really CLAs"

              about a year ago
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          • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn The GNU General Public License , Richard Fontana , Harald Welte

            @fontana, #Brock said once to me: !GPL enforcement can only be done in EU if ©AA exists. I pointed to @laforge et al & she changed subject.

            about a year ago from web
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            • X11R5 X11R5 Rui Seabra

              @ruiseabra Even on the next 5 years

              about a year ago
            • Karsten Wade Karsten Wade Jeff Spaleta

              @jspaleta We've discussed that; I'm not yet trying to get #TOSW up to that level of citation; sloppy is still the way.

              about a year ago
            • Karsten Wade Karsten Wade Jeff Spaleta

              @jspaleta Sure, & I'd hate the work messy with citation links any inline attributions anyway!

              about a year ago
          • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn busybox , The GNU General Public License

            !BusyBox !GPL violation email addr got #SPAM for link-exchange w/ baby supply site. Made me think of product: "Baby's first GPL C&CS check"

            about a year ago from web
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            • Fabian Scherschel Fabian Scherschel

              @bkuhn You could be onto something there...

              about a year ago
          • Tekk Has Moved Tekk Has Moved Bradley M. Kuhn

            hey @bkuhn, you used to work on busybox right? you remember the proper command for installing at runtime? busybox --install -s doesnt work

            about a year ago from web
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            • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn busybox

              @tekk, However, meanwhile, it would probably be appropriate to say I hold the title of "!GPL Enforcer-in-chief" of the !BusyBox project.

              about a year ago
            • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Free Software & Culture Group

              @tekk, most of my !FaiF software development has been as a small patch writer. I've sent a lot of patches to many projects since 1993.

              about a year ago
            • pokersitecentral pokersitecentral Bradley M. Kuhn

              @bkuhn Poker software phone no:1-888-699-7888 Ext. 226 +1-310-209-8241 Ext. 226 gamingwebsiteoffers@hushmail.com www.pokersitecentral.com

              about a year ago
          • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn busybox , The GNU General Public License , Richard Fontana

            @fontana, One can basically require just about anything for reinstatement of rights per !GPLv2 §4. !BusyBox for its part prefers GPLv2-only.

            Wednesday, 05-Jan-11 14:28:48 UTC from web
            • Tekk Has Moved Tekk Has Moved

              @bkuhn he only has to get it. They probably picked the gpl2d versions for that reason

              Tuesday, 04-Jan-11 19:32:10 UTC
            • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn The GNU General Public License , Tekk Has Moved

              @tekk, !GPLv2 requires "scripts to control installation". It's not as different from what GPLv3 requires as some think. http://ur1.ca/0q7d0

              Wednesday, 05-Jan-11 03:06:07 UTC
          • Ingolf Schaefer Ingolf Schaefer

            Ok, it seems that there is a GPL violation on my eBook reader. Vendor offers much of the source code, but not all.

            Thursday, 25-Nov-10 13:18:07 UTC from heybuddy at Bremen, Bremen, Germany
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            • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn busybox , The GNU General Public License

              @ovidius, is !BusyBox or #uClibc involved in the missing !GPL C&CS for your eBook reader? If so, email me at <gpl@busybox.net>. Thanks!

              Thursday, 25-Nov-10 13:59:50 UTC
            • Ingolf Schaefer Ingolf Schaefer Bradley M. Kuhn

              @bkuhn AFAIK Harald Welte is already looking into the case.

              Thursday, 25-Nov-10 20:27:44 UTC
            • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn The GNU General Public License , Harald Welte

              @ovidius, that's good to know. I know @laforge has limited time to do !GPL enforcement these days, but I am always glad when he's on case.

              Thursday, 25-Nov-10 20:28:22 UTC
          • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Software Freedom Conservancy , The GNU General Public License

            !GPL violations are everywhere:At new !Conservancy office space,landlord just bought 3 brands of security cameras,all of which are violating

            Thursday, 18-Nov-10 13:30:59 UTC from web
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            • x1101 x1101

              @bkuhn thats amazing. Much as #Robin (at least one of them) grows to be #Nightwing in his own right, so have you.

              Thursday, 18-Nov-10 13:53:12 UTC
            • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn The GNU General Public License , x1101

              @x1101, it's nice to know, but it's tough to think that 8 years later, !GPL violations remain rampant & so few people defend #copyleft. :-/

              Thursday, 18-Nov-10 14:01:22 UTC
            • x1101 x1101

              @bkuhn on the upside there is def. more #CopyLeft software around now...

              Thursday, 18-Nov-10 14:18:59 UTC
          • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn busybox

            Discussion (started at http://ur1.ca/2brtn ) on !BusyBox ML sadly got mildly heated. Hopefully new post ( http://ur1.ca/2brtr ) quells that.

            Thursday, 11-Nov-10 23:11:50 UTC from web
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            • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn silner

              @silner,various reasons,some discussed in that thread. IMO seems it's not premeditated: they got a version that worked one day & stuck w/ it

              Thursday, 11-Nov-10 23:24:53 UTC
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              haris haris silner

              @silner if it ain't broke don't fix it comes into play in a lot of these situations I think. Fails though when the upda…

              Thursday, 11-Nov-10 23:35:16 UTC
            • Jason Riedy Jason Riedy Greg K-H

              @bkuhn But you play one on TV/identi.ca... ;) And remember that @gregkh manages 'flag' versions w/o any such central v. Not necessary.

              Thursday, 11-Nov-10 23:52:56 UTC
          • Michael Dexter Michael Dexter

            So would BusyBox/Linux be the correct complement to GNU/Linux? !linux

            Wednesday, 03-Nov-10 04:59:57 UTC from web at Englewood, Oregon, United States
            • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Linux , busybox

              @michaeldexter, I quite typically call embedded systems that are based on !Linux but use #uClibc & !BusyBox by the moniker BusyBox/Linux.

              Wednesday, 03-Nov-10 11:12:36 UTC
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