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  1. Free as in Freedom Free as in Freedom The GNU General Public License , Free as in Freedom , Bradley M. Kuhn , karen sandler , Richard Fontana

    On !FaiFCast 0x29, hear @fontana's #lfcollab 2012 talk entitled "Decline of !GPL" & @bkuhn's & @kaz's comments on it: http://ur1.ca/9ae3s

    about 9 days ago from web at Brooklyn, New York, United States
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    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Richard Stallman Political Notes , foonetic (lnxwalt280)

      I think no one can or will ever replace @rms single-handedly, but thinking of it in those terms is problematic. You're conflating his roles.

      about 3 days ago
    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Richard Fontana

      Nice of you to say that I'm personally so important, but this is really about how underfunded the key non-profits are, not about my own time

      about 3 days ago
    • Richard Fontana Richard Fontana Red Hat , Bradley M. Kuhn

      @bkuhn At #SFLC I wasn't "fighting on behalf of community"; that sounds like communitizing community with community tools.

      about 2 days ago
  2. Richard Fontana Richard Fontana Red Hat

    !RedHat releases #OpenShift Origin under #Apache License 2.0 http://ur1.ca/951s9

    about a month ago from web
    • Marcio B. Jr., Christopher Allan Webber and Răzvan Sandu repeated this.
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    • Richard Fontana Richard Fontana Red Hat , GNU Affero General Public Licence , Tom "spot" Callaway

      Plus there's whatever mysterious thing @spot was asking about

      about a month ago
    • Richard Fontana Richard Fontana Red Hat , GNU Affero General Public Licence , Bradley M. Kuhn

      @bkuhn OTOH, in 2-3 situations you could say I prevented inappropriate use of #AGPL. I am doing my part to save & promote #copyleft

      about a month ago
    • Richard Fontana Richard Fontana Red Hat , GNU Affero General Public Licence , Bradley M. Kuhn , Christopher Allan Webber

      @bkuhn As James #Stewart said in another film "One doesn't often get a second chance". @cwebber and #MediaGoblin is #AGPL's second chance.

      about a month ago
  3. Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn The GNU Lesser General Public License , Richard Fontana

    @fontana, if you installed #FontanaCam, I'd be your first subscriber. BTW, I just realized #JenniCam's been gone for 9 years. I'm net.old.

    about 4 months ago from web
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    • Rob Myers Rob Myers

      @bkuhn no that's cultural studies

      about 4 months ago
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    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn The GNU Lesser General Public License , Richard Fontana

      @fontana, please make available your evidence that #Cygnus authored #LGPLv2. (I watched you co-author !LGPLv3, BTW)

      about 4 months ago
    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn The GNU Lesser General Public License , Richard Stallman Political Notes , Richard Fontana

      @fontana, #Cygnus wrote !LGPL evidence 1 & 2 are unsourced speculation;As for 3,many parts of LGPLv2 seem like #FDL, which I know @rms wrote

      about 4 months ago
  4. Mike Linksvayer Mike Linksvayer The GNU Lesser General Public License

    Should not !LGPL group desc be updated: "The space between GPL and [-Apache-2.0-] {+MPL-2.0+} License." ?

    about 4 months ago from web
    • Luis Villa Luis Villa Richard Fontana

      They are conceptually similar, but the much-reduced overhead of MPL may make it a separate place in the spectrum in practice.

      about 4 months ago
  5. Neustradamus Neustradamus Mp3 Group , The GNU Lesser General Public License , LAME - Lame Aint an MP3 Encoder , Encoder

    !LAME 3.99 has been released ( !MP3 !Encoder / !LGPL ) http://lame.sourceforge.net/

    about 7 months ago from web
    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn The GNU Lesser General Public License , Richard Fontana

      @fontana, just find me someone to blame for !LGPL v2§3¶1 sentences 2-3. I wanna complain at length to whoever is responsible for that.

      about 10 months ago from web
      • Clacke Moved to Parlementum Clacke Moved to Parlementum Luis Villa , Richard Fontana

        @fontana #Tiemann, is that German for @tieguy? ;-)

        about 10 months ago
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      • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn The GNU Lesser General Public License , Richard Fontana

        @fontana, I'd love to blame #Tiemann for the problems that are found in !LGPL v2. OTOH, I have you to *thank* for how great LGPLv3 is!

        about 10 months ago
    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn The GNU General Public License , The GNU Lesser General Public License , Richard Fontana

      @fontana, that's what I meant. I was slightly vague on that point, but I meant redundancy of !LGPL disjunction in license w/ !GPL. #Mozilla

      about 11 months ago from web
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      • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Richard Fontana

        @fontana, I disagree w/ your reading of that post. #lwall speaks of being hurt by software hoarders. Does confirm orig 'dual license' usage.

        about 11 months ago
      • Erez Schatz Erez Schatz Larry Wall

        @bkuhn The name is Toady, @TimToady #lwall

        about 11 months ago
      • Dave Neary Dave Neary Simon Phipps

        @webmink You agree with me, so obviously you're right.

        about 11 months ago
    • Allison Randal Allison Randal Bradley M. Kuhn

      @bkuhn Doesn't mean the devs are *right* to blur the legal details, just that the finer points of licensing are picked up later.

      about a year ago from web
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      • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Canonical Ltd.

        @allisonrandal,Amanda said it to me (when defending !Canonical's demand of © assignment) & hasn't retracted. I was asking *your* view though

        about a year ago
      • Denver Gingerich Denver Gingerich

        @allisonrandal To be clear, I think legal action should be saved for when other avenues don't work. But we shouldn't avoid it entirely. #GPL

        about a year ago
      • Denver Gingerich Denver Gingerich Software Freedom Conservancy

        @allisonrandal This is from my experience as a part-time @conservancy employee (my views are my own). Many hardware vendors infringe #GPL.

        about a year ago
    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Linux Outlaws Podcast , GNU Affero General Public Licence , The GNU General Public License , The GNU Lesser General Public License , Allison Randal

      Finally heard !LO w/ @allisonrandal who gives no evidence for assertionj developers of !GPL & !AGPL stuff generally want code !LGPL'd too.

      about a year ago from mustard
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      • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Allison Randal , Simon Phipps

        @webmink,my "most" is surely just as quantified as @allisonrandal's is. I rarely talk to a developer who doesn't know roughly:GPL, LGPL, BSD

        about a year ago
      • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Dan Scott

        @dbs, I probably talk to more diversity of developers than most,since my role at #Conservancy has me interacting w/ a wide range of projects

        about a year ago
      • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn

        Those looking for the continuation of this thread might want to follow into this conversation: http://identi.ca/conversation/74979814

        about a year ago
    • Jason Riedy Jason Riedy Bradley M. Kuhn , Richard Fontana

      @fontana @bkuhn Lisp has had a LLGPL for similar uses since 2000. http://opensource.franz.com/

      about a year ago from mbpidgin at Chesapeake, Virginia, United States
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      • Stephen Paul Weber Stephen Paul Weber Bradley M. Kuhn

        @bkuhn if one wants to keep copyleft on code, should just be sure to own some piece under AGPL, no? http://sngpl.ma/t4CY5

        about a year ago
      • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Stephen Paul Weber

        @singpolyma, (I think) the debate in this thread is about whether a community fork of copylefted code can survive,not how to actually do it.

        about a year ago
      • Roger Pixley Roger Pixley Richard Fontana

        @fontana Just checking if you have examples of a community fork that failed due to preference for the prop. version

        about a year ago
    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn All Things Problematic in this World , The GNU Lesser General Public License , Richard Fontana

      @fontana,AFAIK #Wine is !LGPL'd & accepts patches w/out copyright assignment;I know of no ongoing action by #Codeweavers that's !problematic

      about a year ago from web
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      • Alexandre Oliva Alexandre Oliva

        @bkuhn doesn't it qualify for the ROM exception? how do you modify software in a CD-ROM?

        about a year ago
      • Alexandre Oliva Alexandre Oliva

        @bkuhn oops, indeed, sorry. make it P

        about a year ago
      • Matěj Cepl Matěj Cepl Richard Fontana

        @fontana OMG, did I say that? I think if correcting me pls don't use "subscription" which is non-legal and confusing me even more.

        about a year ago
    • Simon Phipps Simon Phipps

      IBM's solution to the high download bandwidth OOo might demand from Apache? Charge $1/download: http://bit.ly/jYkF88

      about a year ago from web
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      • Paul Visscher Paul Visscher Bradley M. Kuhn , x1101

        @x1101 I confirm that @bkuhn bought someone's soul on ebay.

        about a year ago
      • x1101 x1101 Bradley M. Kuhn , Paul Visscher

        @paulv was it yours? /cc @bkuhn

        about a year ago
      • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn x1101 , Ryan Kleeberger

        @x1101, no, I bought @ryanklee's soul on #Ebay in the late 1990s. (I didn't realize he had an identi.ca account until now).

        about a year ago
    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Software Freedom Conservancy , The GNU Lesser General Public License , Richard Fontana

      @fontana,Wine's many unaffiliated contributors under !LGPL. #Wine's likely most corporate entangled in !Conservancy, yet it's still not much

      about a year ago from web
      • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Richard Fontana

        @fontana, if you find #Wine's more corporate #entangled than I believe, please write a more comprehensive blog about it & I'll investigate.

        about a year ago
      • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Richard Fontana

        @fontana, appearances do concern me,but only if it is an "appearance of impropriety". I think that's not occurring here, so not priority now

        about a year ago
    • Simon Phipps Simon Phipps

      Watching with concern as IBM and Oracle between them try to shut down LibreOffice with help from Apache.

      about a year ago from web
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      • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Dave Neary

        @nearyd, yes & I agree with it. I often don't mention your blog posts, although I do read them, b/c I usually always agree w/ you. :) +1 :)

        about a year ago
      • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Richard Fontana

        @fontana, that meme sucks. w/out ", see?" on end, it's not nearly as funny. We gotta this: "Where's your FOO now, see?" meme of yours viral.

        about a year ago
      • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Richard Fontana

        @fontana, perhaps you're right, but all I can think to say in response to you is: "Where's your Internet meme now, see?"

        about a year ago
    • Maciej Piechotka Maciej Piechotka Bradley M. Kuhn

      @bkuhn Thanks for talk however could you compare LGPL-2.1+ vs. LGPL-3||GPL-2 ("why should dev/maintainer care")? !fsf !gnu !license !gpl

      about a year ago from web at City of Westminster, England, United Kingdom
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      • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn The GNU General Public License , All Things Problematic in this World , The GNU Lesser General Public License

        @mpiechotka, you don't think that suggesting that developers have to change all !LGPLv2 notices to !GPLv2 to link the code is !problematic?

        about a year ago
      • Maciej Piechotka Maciej Piechotka Bradley M. Kuhn

        @bkuhn Ok. So If I understand correctly (L)GPL-2 requires altering notice during re-licensing which is problematic for linking.

        about a year ago
      • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn The GNU Lesser General Public License

        @mpiechotka, yes, and that !LGPLv2 problem is just many example of many why LGPLv3 is better weak #copyleft for users and developers. :)

        about a year ago
    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn The GNU General Public License , The GNU Lesser General Public License , Richard Fontana

      @fontana, can you point out a few examples of incompatibilities from !LGPLv3's point of view in reference to !GPLv2. I'll updat epost.

      about a year ago from web
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      • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Roland Dreier

        @rbd, It's used for educational, non-profit purpose. Use doesn't impact their market. Feel free to report the alleged © infringement to them

        about a year ago
      • Clacke Moved to Parlementum Clacke Moved to Parlementum drew Roberts

        @zotz You can always get sued. Merit is irrelevant. :-)

        about a year ago
      • drew Roberts drew Roberts Clacke Moved to Parlementum

        @clacke well of course but since some big boys want to pretend Fair Use does not exist for others...

        about a year ago
    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn The Parrot Virtual Machine , The GNU General Public License , The GNU Lesser General Public License , Richard Fontana

      @fontana, I think !GPLv3 is wrong license for !Parrot. Although, !LGPLv3 might be a pretty good choice.

      about a year ago from web
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      • speeddefrost speeddefrost Psychedelic Squid (is now at Fragdev)

        @psquid Clients can pick them up and display them if they wan't to. I'd say it's a plus for some people.

        about a year ago
      • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Richard Fontana

        @fontana, #Digium has slowly but surely walked toward the #MySQL AB path. I worry for the future of #Asterisk. May switch to FreeSwitch.

        about a year ago
      • Simon Phipps Simon Phipps

        @bkuhn Freeswitch exhibits better software freedom life-signs, no doubt about it.

        about a year ago

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