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  1. Zooko Wilcox-O'Hearn Zooko Wilcox-O'Hearn Leif Ryge

    Happy Birthday, Tahoe-LAFS! https://tahoe-lafs.org/pipermail/tahoe-dev/2007-May/000003.html (HT @wiretapped)

    about 23 days ago from web at Denver, Colorado, United States
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    • Jason Self Jason Self All Things Problematic in this World

      @zooko It's also !problematic due to license proliferation not being GPL compatible where a normal permissive license could be.

      about 23 days ago
    • Jason Self Jason Self

      @zooko Why not update #TGPPL to allow code to be put back directly under the normal GPL?

      about 23 days ago
    • Zooko Wilcox-O'Hearn Zooko Wilcox-O'Hearn Jason Self

      Actually I do plan to do that.

      about 23 days ago
  2. Dr. Roy Schestowitz Dr. Roy Schestowitz Free Software Foundation

    "LiveCode 6.0 is released under the GPL3 license" and targets all popular platforms http://www.pcworld.com/article/2033881/create-your-own-apps-for-free-with-open-source-livecode-6-0.html !fsf

    about a month ago from feed
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    • Jason Self Jason Self Free Software Foundation , warp

      @warp Programs made w/LiveCode inherit v3-only nature. Please read RunRev's position on programs made using LiveCode http://www.ur1.ca/dd4kb

      about a month ago
    • Jason Self Jason Self All Things Problematic in this World , warp

      @warp But never said it was proprietary but certainly !problematic since programs using it inherit their poor decision.

      about a month ago
    • warp warp Jason Self

      Oh wow, I didn't realize that. That just turns this into a proprietary relicensing situation, pretty shady.

      about a month ago
  3. Richard Fontana Richard Fontana All Things Problematic in this World

    Hoping 2016 US presidential election isn't Jeb Bush vs. Hillary Clinton. #dynasticism !problematic

    about 3 months ago from web
    • Mike Linksvayer Mike Linksvayer All Things Problematic in this World , Bradley M. Kuhn

      @fontana on a related note, RMS should run. He likes politics, this would help his fame. @bkuhn campaign chief. Seriously.

      about 3 months ago
  4. Software Freedom Conservancy Software Freedom Conservancy Software Freedom Conservancy

    #Conservancy has published our FY2011 annual report + fed/state tax filings. Download them here: http://ur1.ca/cxjt5 !conservancy

    about 3 months ago from web at New York, New York, United States
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    • Stefano Zacchiroli Stefano Zacchiroli Bradley M. Kuhn

      @bkuhn: maybe "you hack, we take care of the rest"? | *if* you interpret "hack" in its broadest "tinker" meaning,it solves #rockstarissue

      about 3 months ago
    • Jesus M. Gonzalez-Barahona Jesus M. Gonzalez-Barahona Stefano Zacchiroli

      . @bkuhn @zack What about We work so that you can 'just code' (most of us prefer coding than other, very much needed though, tasks)

      about 3 months ago
    • Richard Fontana Richard Fontana Stefano Zacchiroli

      #Conservancy : We're the #ReubenKincaid of !Free Software Projects

      about 3 months ago
  5. Valentin Villenave Valentin Villenave The GNU General Public License , All Things Problematic in this World

    Doesn’t #Canonical’s policy revolve less around a "Not Invented Here" than a "Not Copyright-held Here" syndrom? !problematic !GPL #Mir

    about 3 months ago from web
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  6. drew Roberts drew Roberts Richard Fontana

    @fontana - could there be some way to give licensees of #copyleft-next the standing they would need to get source on their own initiative?

    about 3 months ago from web
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    • Richard Fontana Richard Fontana Evan Prodromou

      @evan if there's a REST of the story I'd think you'd use the Apache License

      about 3 months ago
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    • Richard Fontana Richard Fontana

      @zotz a requirement to bring a lawsuit seems !problematic (requirement to cooperate in someone else's has precedent)

      about 3 months ago
    • drew Roberts drew Roberts Richard Fontana

      but that other person would not have standing to bring the suit. or could they bring it so long as someone participating has standing?

      about 3 months ago
  7. drew Roberts drew Roberts Richard Fontana

    @fontana - have you considered the interaction of #copyleft-next and statutory licensing?

    about 3 months ago from web
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    • Richard Fontana Richard Fontana All Things Problematic in this World , Richard Fontana

      @zotz these kinds of licenses are probably !problematic for sculptures

      about 3 months ago
    • Richard Fontana Richard Fontana

      @zotz GPL defn arguably should be 'preferred form for making a modified copy'

      about 3 months ago
    • drew Roberts drew Roberts Richard Fontana

      shouldn't really be. We can have a photo of a sculpture, a sketch of the same, and a copy in the same or another substance, etc.

      about 3 months ago
  8. The copyleft-next project The copyleft-next project

    Hear ye, hear ye! #copyleft-next 0.1.0 has been released. Patches welcome!

    about 4 months ago from web
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    • Arne Babenhauserheide Arne Babenhauserheide Richard Fontana

      @fontana then he would just change it a bit…

      about 3 months ago
    • Arne Babenhauserheide Arne Babenhauserheide Richard Fontana

      @fontana to me it looks like you want to say “I grant you an *exclusive* worldwide license to use this work under GPL”.

      about 3 months ago
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    • Arne Babenhauserheide Arne Babenhauserheide

      @fontana and you can do that. You just need some legal entity which can receive that license. Maybe conservancy could do that.

      about 3 months ago
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    Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) Richard Fontana

    @fontana The Now-Existent Issue Tracker? https://lists.fedorahosted.org/pipermail/copyleft-next/2013-February/000421.html

    about 4 months ago from parlementum.net
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    • Jeremiah C. Foster Jeremiah C. Foster Stefano Zacchiroli

      @zack what turned you off of gitlab? My preference these days is to host my own gifts with gitolite and gitweb.

      about 3 months ago
    • Stefano Zacchiroli Stefano Zacchiroli Jeremiah C. Foster

      @jeremiah: the fact that there is no distro package. I'm myself on gitweb/gitolite now, but something more integrated would be nice

      about 3 months ago
    • Lars Wirzenius Lars Wirzenius Stefano Zacchiroli

      You'll be glad to know that Daniel has promised #gitano packages. http://ur1.ca/ctpst

      about 3 months ago
  10. Arne Babenhauserheide Arne Babenhauserheide The copyleft-next project

    @copyleftnext I don’t understand point 3 in http://ur1.ca/cmb51

    about 4 months ago from Choqok at Graben-Neudorf, Baden-Württemberg, Germany
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    • engelnyst engelnyst Richard Fontana

      Personally I'd see only advantages in such revision. It's not conceivable imho to be used for subverting.

      about 4 months ago
    • engelnyst engelnyst drew Roberts

      Or, don't make it legally-proof binding. Make it socially binding. Explicit public commitment makes promise matter. (http://ur1.ca/cojbi)

      about 4 months ago
    • drew Roberts drew Roberts engelnyst

      That hardly seems to help when one company is bought out by another. Etc.

      about 4 months ago
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    maiki maiki

    WordPress.org bans Themeforest members from participating in official WordCamp gatherings - The Next Web - http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/01/23/wordpress-org-bans-themeforest-authors-from-participating-in-official-wordcamp-gatherings/

    about 4 months ago from denot.es
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    • Mike Linksvayer Mike Linksvayer Brian van den Broek

      @vanden I don't think it's that bad of an analogy; board can overrule or even depose. Also, citizens/constituency can go extralegal.*

      about 4 months ago
    • Mike Linksvayer Mike Linksvayer Mike Linksvayer

      *(not that I encourage. actually, I condemn almost all revolutions. been meaning to explain why on a Jul 4, maybe will make 2013.)

      about 4 months ago
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      lnxwalt (lnxwalt280) lnxwalt (lnxwalt280) Bradley M. Kuhn

      @bkuhn True that. But discussion and conceptualizing could (and arguably should) precede such approval.

      about 4 months ago
  12. p4bl0 p4bl0

    Happy birthday #Perl ! http://perldoc.perl.org/perlhist.html :-)

    about 5 months ago from web at Marseille, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur, France
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    • Richard Fontana Richard Fontana Jason Riedy

      @jasonriedy OK #COBOL is the #SlimWhitman of programming languages

      about 5 months ago
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      lnxwalt (lnxwalt280) lnxwalt (lnxwalt280) Richard Fontana

      @fontana I think the point is that like #COBOL, #Perl is widely used and a part of the computing infrastructure, even though reviled.

      about 5 months ago
    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Perl users , Richard Fontana

      @fontana, I saying I was wrong about #COBOL, and others are wrong about !Perl. I'm not sure how that's troll-ish.

      about 5 months ago
  13. Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Canonical Ltd.

    #Microsoft once called my work "Unamerican cancer". !Canonical calls it "McCarthyism" ur1.ca/byl1i Wealthy people sure do like name-calling!

    about 5 months ago from web
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    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Simon Phipps , Mark Shuttleworth , Apry

      @apry, I guess so;I'm not really looking for ways to explain @sabdfl's behavior. If @webmink wants to,it'd make good fodder for his column.

      about 5 months ago
    • Mike Linksvayer Mike Linksvayer

      @bkuhn depending what you mean by "wrong", insulting not wrong. But then I recommend following Crocker's Rules.

      about 5 months ago
    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Mike Linksvayer

      @mlinksva, I think it's wrong to call people dicks & McCarthyists. I'd agree that it's not the worst thing someone can do.

      about 5 months ago
  14. Valentin Villenave Valentin Villenave All Things Problematic in this World

    Look at what these idiots have done http://identi.ca/url/74262054 #cfaa #fbi #chillingeffects !problematic

    about 6 months ago from web at Paris, Île-de-France, France
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  15. Richard Fontana Richard Fontana New York City , All Things Problematic in this World

    One of the worst things about #exile from #NewYork (ika !NYC ) is automobile dependence. At car dealership now for service. !problematic

    about 10 months ago from web
    • Rob Myers Rob Myers

      Currently despairing at artists about copyright and coders about art. Lawyers, there's a trifecta to be had here, pls halp...

      about a year ago from Gwibber
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      • Jason Riedy Jason Riedy Richard Fontana

        @fontana @robmyers Clearly you haven't coped with enough other peoples' code.

        about a year ago
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      • Jason F. McBrayer Jason F. McBrayer Jason Riedy

        @jasonriedy Vogon poetry, most of it. Oh freddled gruntbuggly...

        about a year ago
      • Rob Myers Rob Myers Richard Fontana

        @fontana ah, the Vogons. :-) Also: http://ur1.ca/9jh9u

        about a year ago
    • Richard Fontana Richard Fontana Red Hat , All Things Problematic in this World , The Establishment

      Somehow 2 !RedHat lawyers being the as-yet sole members of the !establishment group seems !problematic.

      about a year ago from web
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        tekk tekk

        @fontana it certainly says a lot :)

        about a year ago
    • Valentin Villenave Valentin Villenave WTF?

      #Amazon deletes books that can cause "a poor customer experience". http://identi.ca/url/70479150 !WTF?

      about a year ago from web
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      • Mike Linksvayer Mike Linksvayer

        @vvillenave Amazon deleted DRM'd books!? ;-)

        about a year ago
      • Valentin Villenave Valentin Villenave Mike Linksvayer

        @mlinksva We should demand that they remove every shitty book we can think of, in order to protect our "reader experience". #bravenewworld

        about a year ago
      • Mike Linksvayer Mike Linksvayer All Things Problematic in this World

        @vvillenave seriously though, will be interesting to see how they and others, eg openlibrary, deal with spam books. will be !problematic

        about a year ago
    • Mike Linksvayer Mike Linksvayer All Things Problematic in this World

      Hmm, I've long advocated yyyy-mm-dd but tenuously !problematic for <1583 or >9999 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:DATEFORMAT#Dates

      about a year ago from web
      • Richard Fontana Richard Fontana disturbing

        Proposal: design a programming language called "Mouse" sufficiently !disturbing that someone writes a polemic called "The Mouse Trap"

        about a year ago from web
        • XFaCE XFaCE

          @fontana We just need to petition Microsoft to rename C#.

          about a year ago
        • Mike Linksvayer Mike Linksvayer disturbing

          @fontana every new language compiles to JS so the polemic is already written. ps The sea roars.

          about a year ago
        • Mike Linksvayer Mike Linksvayer All Things Problematic in this World

          @fontana counter-proposal: ...called "crack" sufficiently !problematic that someone pens "Why you should not use crack" for tech reasons

          about a year ago
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