Notices tagged with socent

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.@jonhusband @mozboz @marksimpkins @uriahz We don't hit paydirt until we talk about changing the structures of power and ownership #socent

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.@jonhusband @mozboz @marksimpkins @uriahz A #socent owned by its "beneficiaries" would have better incentives than companies or charities

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.@jonhusband @mozboz @marksimpkins @uriahz *precisely* Show me #socent *owned by its supposed beneficiaries* and we're starting to get going

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.@mozboz @marksimpkins @uriahz The lack of rigour in #socent actually reflects very deep political compromises to make it work. Compare coop

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.@mozboz @marksimpkins @uriahz But #socent, right now, is a lot of very bright young things being manoeuvred on implicit political agendas.

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.@jonhusband Remember Triple Bottom Line? It does a fair job of defining social enterprise #socent in rigourous ways http://t.co/Qs3m1IO9Cz

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RT @mozboz: @leashless @uriahz two levels of #socent: 1) benign 'do good' goal 2) expression of new/better values 1:maybe useless, 2:cri ...

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.@mozboz @uriahz I'm not against the idea of businesses which aren't evil. But #socent as a *movement* is a dangerous veil.

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.@mozboz @uriahz we can't design what we can't define - or measure. #Socent is like voluntary environmental compliance: largely useless.

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@uriahz I do understand that phrase as you mean it, but are you really, really sure that #socent is really the right vehicle?

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.@uriahz Mondragon, yes. http://t.co/4s4UngSnlx But every $ of profit from a #socent is somebody they chose not to help that day.

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.@uriahz I'm all for benign, positive, good business. By all means sell good products. But the split incentives in #socent are dangerous.

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.@uriahz Change is going to have to be political. Capitalism's incentives are played out, and #socent is more capitalism.

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.@uriahz Back that up for me. Tell me *why* #socent is vital. People fooled themselves thinking Grameen Bank worked http://t.co/WmAOL05r54

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.@uriahz This is not to say that the exceptions might not change the world, but for the most part, #Socent is false promise and time wasted.

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.@uriahz This is not to say that I'm *against* #Socent but the bar is really high: company has to store capital in social forms (community)

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.@uriahz And the common belief in #Socent has depoliticized a generation that could be fighting for political change with false promises.