Christopher Allan Webber

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I have some concerns that we're not getting the other FOSS social networks involved in the Social WG. Actually, there seem to be a lot of other interests that are not even federation that seem to be involved in the working group, but to me the main goal of the group is standardizing federation. (Recent meetings make me wonder if there is some drift from that goal, or if that goal was never totally shared from the beginning... I hope we can get all to land on that goal!)

Having many non-federation-participants but not getting the other FOSS federation social networks involved seems like a mistake to me. I've tried to do some outreach to other groups like Diaspora, but nobody I've spoken to there seems interested in joining the group, and I've tried pushing for getting the group to do more outreach to these other groups, and I haven't seen much interest from others.

That seems like a bad position to me. I hope we can change it. I think we'll have to for the group to achieve its aims.

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Your heart is in the right place. Having all of these disparate projects speak the same protocol for maximum interoperability is a noble goal, but it is a gradual process that takes time. I have been keeping my eye on a few different projects within the space over the years, and have been exploring the Red/Friendica/Zot community after spending so much time on Diaspora and Tent.

I think there are some really great concepts and puzzle pieces held by these different projects.

RedMatrix has some brilliant ideas about federation, privacy controls, and decentralized authentication. You can visit a link to a contact's personal web site, and without logging in, it can securely establish permissions checks between you and the contact. You can see posts that are meant for just you. When a server goes down, other servers can help to provide missing comments, effectively causing the federated network to heal. You can clone your profile to another website and use it as a backup if your main site goes down, or as a relay system if you're trying to get around censorship.

Tent has some really good ideas about personal data storage, machine-readable post types that different applications can understand and make use of, and APIs that tie users to applications to servers. Users can authenticate into a web app and store the app data on their personal servers rather than on public ones.

Sean Tilley at 2014-11-04T07:20:28Z

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