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Also, if you honestly believe that an embryo is a person from conception, then I urge you to at least read up on the concept of The Quickening.
Quickening - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The quickening actually has reference and grounding from within theological schools of thought, particularly of the Abrahamic deviation. Many people define life as beginning as soon as a baby begins to make movements of its own accord, not the very moment conception happened. Others still believe that life only begins when the baby is born and draws its first breath.
Quickening - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In pregnancy terms, quickening is the moment in pregnancy when the pregnant woman starts to feel or perceive fetal movements in the uterus. The first natural sensation of quickening may feel like a light tapping, or the fluttering of a butterfly. These sensations eventually become stronger and more regular as the pregnancy progresses.
The quickening actually has reference and grounding from within theological schools of thought, particularly of the Abrahamic deviation. Many people define life as beginning as soon as a baby begins to make movements of its own accord, not the very moment conception happened. Others still believe that life only begins when the baby is born and draws its first breath.
@deadsuperhero@identi.ca how could any scientifically literate person take quickening seriously? Even theologically, the concept is irrelevant for personhood now that we know more about embryology. A human moves well before her mother can feel it. How does whether or not someone else notices you change what you are?