Blaise Alleyne balleyne@identi.ca

Toronto, Canada

Technologist, musician, writer, theology student, free culture/software advocate. http://status.blaise.ca/ http://blaise.ca/

  • Pumpa v0.9.2

    sazius at 2016-01-31T02:40:27Z via AndStatus To: Public

    There's a new minor Pumpa release v0.9.2 out.

    Biggest changes are:

    • New feature: user profile and avatar image editing.
    • Shares are now visualised with a recycling icon.
    • New language: Finnish.
    • Fixed bug where a shared object might be seen as already liked.
    • Fixed bug where certain authors were seen as being followed even though they weren't.

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    Building Pumpa on Mac OSX 10.11.3 (El Capitan) needs updated documentation. The Tidy dev files need to be installed. I'm looking into that now.

    William L. Anderson at 2016-02-01T02:05:49Z

    OK, thanks for testing! I don't have access to a Mac OS X system so I'm depending on others to test it :-)

    sazius at 2016-02-01T16:21:40Z

    OSX 10.11.3 report: Pumpa 0.9.2 crashes when selecting "New note" or "comment'. From the crash log it seems to be something between Qt and libtidy and initializing the new window. I do not have time right now to follow up on this.

    William L. Anderson at 2016-02-01T16:51:54Z

  • Firefox is discontinuing tab groups

    2016-01-28T19:51:21Z via Pumpa To: Public CC: Followers

    Agh... https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/tab-groups-removal

    Thankfully I just reduced my open tabs from ~300 to ~75 last month... time to go to Tab Zero...

    Tab Zero is something I can get behind

    Efraim Flashner at 2016-01-28T20:11:07Z

    And I had just started using the "tab groups" feature. I switched back to the tree style tabs ad-on I had been using. For as long as that works...

    Charles ☕ Stanhope at 2016-01-28T21:18:20Z

  • Tacere: Auto-silence mobile during calendar events

    2016-01-24T04:48:07Z via Pumpa To: Public CC: Followers

    In switching from Maemo to Cyanogenmod this month, one of the nicest applications I found in F-Droid has been Tacere, which reads from your calendar to automatically switch the ring mode while events are active.

    It's 90% what I had imagined developing myself! In Maemo, I used a bash script with fcrontab to autosilence my N900 on regular times every week (e.g. during regular rehearsals, classes, mass, etc.). But I'd always wished I had a way to read from the calendar, to catch one-off events, like a meeting or concert, and automate the silence.

    Tacere basically does this! The only issues I've had so far is that by default it assumes you want it to take action for all events in a calendar, whereas I really just want to whitelist a few events... that's possible, but a bit counterintuitive given some of the design assumptions. Second issue is... I'm not entirely sure I have it working yet... I've had it ring when it was supposed to be silent! But I'm not sure I've got it configuration properly, so could be a user error... Still, very excited of the potential to get this working properly!

    Also, a nice surprise, since this was one of the things I was expecting to lose from my N900, not improve.

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    what phone are you using? Also, have you looked into any of the apps that allow you to install Debian or another Linux to run alongside android?

    Efraim Flashner at 2016-01-24T05:30:55Z

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    I'm not sure but I'm hoping so. I'm not sure how easily it can access the rest of the file system, but I'm still trying to think of what programs I'd want to run.

    Efraim Flashner at 2016-01-24T08:34:59Z

  • Elena ``of Valhalla'' at 2016-01-21T14:56:09Z via AndStatus To: Public

    mjg59 | Linux Foundation quietly drops community representation
    The Linux Foundation is an industry organisation dedicated to promoting, protecting and standardising Linux and open source software[1]. The majority of its board is chosen by the member companies [...] Up until recently individual members ($99 a year) could also elect two board members, allowing for community perspectives to be represented at the board level.

    As of last Friday, this is no longer true.

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  • 2016-01-16T01:26:26Z via AndStatus To: Public

    Pet peeve: email newsletters that duplicate most but not all from the RSS feeds. I'd like special announcements that aren't posted on the website, but I'm a grown-up and can subscribe to your blog. You don't have to email me every day just with blog posts. I know how to find them, thanks.

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  • New Computers: N900 to S5, X60 to... X200?

    2016-01-09T09:24:10Z via Pumpa To: Public CC: Followers

    Procrastination has led me to focus on upgrading computers...

    I think I'm 70% sold on replacing my X60 with a Libreboot X200. I've made some progress on speeding up the X60 (e.g. see the IceWeasel improvement, but feedback on my pump.io post and a great discussion on LibrePlanet Ontario mailing list. I'm going to get my T61 working again though, as another spare, and to help solidify the X200/T400 decision... but I imagine later this year I'll get an X200, and then do the Libreboot installation on my X60.

    Then, in mobile computing, I bought a new, unlocked S5 from canadagsm.ca for a great price (sketchy, but the guy answers the phone and emails... I think unprofessional, but not unreliable).

    It took me like 20 minutes to go from stock Samsung to Cyanogenmod 12.1 last night, even troubleshooting a minor flashing hiccup (thank you Freerunner flashing experience!).

    I'm gradually setting up applications, will probably swap the SIM soon since, even though I plan to continue using my N900 for gpodder (I have it heavily scripted in Maemo and am loving it...), I can always create a WiFI hotspot with my S5 if I need to use my N900 online...

    Still a few items I'm trying to figure out in Android/CM though:

    • Maybe dumb question, but how do you get ESC/CTRL/TAB etc. in apps like Connectbot?
    • There's nothing in F-Droid for Nagios (or Zabbix...). What do you use for monitoring? I'm looking at maybe setting up Nagios with Twilio to just send me SMS...
    • What do you use for cron/scheduling in Android? In Maemo, I have fcrontab scripts to do things like put my N900 into silent mode at specific times every week when I'm in class/rehearsal... (Though my wishlist feature is not to set times manually, but to have it read my calendar, say look for a special character in the event title to signify which events to go silent for...)
    • What do you use for backups in Android? I like rsync4android, because I'm using rsync for backup everywhere else, but that's not in F-Droid and I'm not sure if the GUI is proprietary... I'd be happy with CLI rsync if I can schedule it with cron (my Maemo solution)...

    Overall, pretty happy to have found some next gen (relatively) freedom-friendly computers that fit my workflow and budget -- nevermind to have lasted this long with computers from 6-8 years ago!

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    How to get Esc, Ctrl and Tab: install Hacker's Keyboard. It's an additional keyboard that you can switch to when using the terminal (or use it all the time if you wish :-)

    As for backups, it's a bit of a messy situation. You can always mount the drive to your computer and backup the "user files". Addressbooks, contacts and calendars are typically synced to some online service (I use Kolab, another good choice is OwnCloud).

    sazius at 2016-01-09T09:42:33Z

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    Thanks for the tip on Hacker's keyboard!

    Re: backups, on my wife's Nexus, contacts/calendar are taken care of by DAVdroid, some photos/videos through ownCloud instant upload, but I also installed rsync4android from the Play store and configured an rsync backup should can manually trigger (but rarely does) of the rest of the user files.

    I still like the idea of an incremental and ideally automated backup of as much as possible... though I've never really had to restore anything. (That may change soon, as she lost her Nexus outside the apartment a couple days ago and hit hasn't resurfaced!)

    Anyways, thanks for the tips!

    Blaise Alleyne at 2016-01-09T16:44:42Z

    Hackers keyboard always! For backups try “oandbackup”. I don't have a Google (nor any GApps installed) account, so I can't comment on apps from Play Store.

    Debacle at 2016-01-10T10:24:58Z

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  • 2016-01-08T15:51:29Z via AndStatus To: Public

    There's no Nagios application in F-Droid? What do people use for monitoring in Android? Maegios is buggy, but it works... I'm not loyal to Nagios if there's a better supported monitoring tool.
  • Libreboot X200, ThinkPad X60, or something else...

    2016-01-03T16:12:04Z via Pumpa To: Public CC: Followers

    Seriously considering a Libreboot X200 to replace my current ThinkPad X60. But, seems like a lot of money to move from old hardware to slightly less old hardware...

    I already have an SSD on my X60, but only 3GB of RAM, no Libreboot, and the Libreboot X200 has a freedom friendly wireless card...

    I could get Libreboot running on my X60. Not sure if that would allow for more RAM? The wireless card switch is probably the only thing I'd be without.

    Looking at the Purism laptops too, but those seem even more expensive, and I'm still partial to Thinkpad hardware -- maybe unreasonably so.

    Or could buy a more recent ThinkPad... but it feels a bit dirty compared to the Ministry of Freedom offerings... except that the CPU seems like a huge difference. I don't know how much it matters to go from a ~2008 Core 2 Duo to a current generation i5 or i7 or whatever?

    Anyone have any experience with the Libreboot machines?

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    You could also get an x200 via Ebay or a t400 from overstock or something. If you check the seller reviews you'll probably end up well, and you could spell less than $200, then you could also upgrade the ram and hard drive yourself, which isn't hard. The process for installing libreboot seemed complicated though, and I figured I was happy enough to want to support Minifree and Libreboot's development. I've been happy with that decision so far.

    Good luck! :)

    Christopher Allan Webber at 2016-01-03T16:24:36Z

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    Yeah, if I'm paying money, I'd definitely rather it go to support Minifree or Purism than say to Lenovo / the Microsoft tax. And I'm a bit hesitant on doing the Libreboot installation myself, with the time it'd take and the risk to a laptop I need...

    Also, just figured out through the old Libreboot X60 listing that there seems to be a limit of 3 GB of RAM even with Libreboot. =\

    Hmm hmm... well, thanks for the feedback!

    Blaise Alleyne at 2016-01-03T16:31:57Z

    I switched from a Libreboot X60 to an X200 a while back. 100% recommend the upgrade. Great screen, bit faster and I've had significantly better battery life. Buy it from Minifree if you can afford to.

    Ben Sturmfels at 2016-01-05T01:19:00Z

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  • Mr. Robot pilot

    2015-12-29T22:10:48Z via Pumpa To: Public CC: Followers

    The pilot for Mr. Robot was surprisingly realistic on the tech side, [major qualifier] for Hollywood. While mentions of GNOME and KDE and other things from anyone but the lead felt like line reads, and the get on a jetplane to save the day single-handedly from the attack was super Hollywood, I'm pretty surprised that they've done their homework on understanding the technology and culture to the point that the details don't distract from the story, e.g. "ps aux | grep root" commands on screen rather than whatever goofy fake screens are usually shown. I can't think of another mainstream show that's done that.

    Yep, it was pretty surprising.

    JMobile at 2015-12-29T23:13:16Z

  • 2015-12-29T03:09:14Z via Pumpa To: Public CC: Followers

    Very close to purchasing a Samsung Galaxy S5 (for Cyanogenmod usage), to gradually phase out my... N900.

    Yep, still using an N900, will be 6 years in a couple weeks.

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    I was running Diablo on my N800 before it died ... great little machine, but once nokia killed further Linux development I switched to Android machines.

    B. Ross Ashley at 2015-12-29T05:45:14Z

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    Yeah, Maemo's been a dead platform for years. The CSSU (community repos) gave Fremantle a bit of a limited extended life, but not much. I've just been holding out, waiting for something else, like the Neo900 or Ubuntu Phone or FairPhone or Jolla or Firefox OS or whatever else. There doesn't seem to be another solid option though, so I'm finally leaning Cyanogenmod.

    Blaise Alleyne at 2015-12-29T16:32:04Z

    Same here. Although my N900 stopped working years ago (2012) and I had to buy a Galaxy S2. Still using it (with Cyanogen), but it doesn't support Wind's frequencies, and it's also starting to show signs of age. However, now that Wind has been sold, maybe it's not worth worrying about it anymore...

    Sergio Durigan Junior at 2016-01-07T20:53:01Z

    I'm heading out to pick up my S5 right now!

    Re: WIND, I don't think the sale matters so much in terms of hardware, because (a) in the short-term, Shaw/WIND will still be the better option, and (b) while Robelus and WIND use different frequency bands for 3G, I just realized that they're all using the same AWS frequency bands for LTE.

    The S5 I bought is the G900W8 model, which is the exact same model being sold in Canada by WIND/Shaw, Rogers, Bell, TELUS...

    So, I think newer devices might be a bit more portable between Canadian carriers in the LTE era... in case Shaw ever manages to out nasty Robelus...

    Blaise Alleyne at 2016-01-07T21:01:40Z

  • IceWeasel gets destroyed by Chromium in hardware acceleration stress test...

    2015-12-28T15:23:16Z via Pumpa To: Public CC: Followers

    I try to use IceWeasel more than Chromium, but often find myself using Chromium more because it feels faster. I thought it was because I had too much stuff open in IceWeasel or because it gradually uses more RAM over time, but today I was getting really frustrated when pressing edit on a DokuWiki page was causing a CPU to churn at 100% for 15-20 seconds. I know I have old hardware (ThinkPad X60 with SSD and 3GB RAM), but... Chromium doesn't blink doing the same things.

    Then, the results from this hardware acceleration stress test were insane:

    • IceWeasel: 2 FPS
    • IceWeasel (safe mode): 3 FPS
    • Chromium: 60+ FPS (the limit of the test)

    Something is seriously wrong... I'm hoping it's something I can fix...

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    I tried this hardware acceleration stress test and the results were sane:
    • IceWeasel: 60+ FPS
    • Chromium: 60+ FPS

    jrobertson at 2015-12-28T16:50:31Z

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    I do not notice that behavior, and I use both. Platform or version may be relevant. :-(

    For me they run comparably so I mostly use Iceweasel.

    Douglas Perkins at 2015-12-28T22:30:49Z

    Thanks all. There's gotta be something with my setup for the performance to be so wildly different... I'll keep digging.

    Blaise Alleyne at 2015-12-29T02:58:46Z

    For posterity, fiddling around with information from here and here, I managed to get IceWeasel to perform at 25-30 FPS by forcing Option "AccelMethod" "sna" in my xorg.conf.

    Also noticed IceWeasel was a lot snappier on a fresh user account, so probably need to close a ton of the tabs I have open (doesn't affect FPS performance though once IceWeasel's all loaded).

    Blaise Alleyne at 2016-01-04T07:48:31Z

  • What free software email (postfix/dovecot) control panel do you use? (Or do you?)

    2015-12-02T17:37:35Z via Pumpa To: Public CC: Followers

    I'm shuffling servers around again. I've used Virtualmin for the past 5 years. I'm pretty happy with it as far as control panels go, but I have mixed feelings about control panels. I could handle web config and maybe even DNS zone files on my own (manually, with Ansible, etc.), but it's email where a web-based control panel seems important -- especially for giving a client access to manage accounts/forwarders on their own domains.

    I feel like there aren't many great free software options out there because everyone's using Gmail... I've been using Postfix and Dovecot, trying to find a better control panel...

    • Virtualmin: does the trick... though it's more of a full control panel, better with one instance on one massive server... but I'm considering splitting things up a bit; also, usernames are awkward and confusing for people since they're different from your email address, e.g. jsmith.somedomain for jsmith@somedomain.com, confusing for the average webmail user
    • Postfixadmin? -- seems ancient and abandoned, last release 2009? There are more recent tutorials, and people seem to be using it... but it doesn't seem like it has a future
    • VboxAdm? Latest release, 2012...
    • Maybe Ratuus? Or http://www.vimbadmin.net/?
    • Modoboa and Møil seem worth a look...

    Does anyone have experience with these projects? Or better recommendations for a web-based Postfix/Dovecot administration?

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    hah, I should say, I bet most people either: (a) use Gmail, (b) use cPanel, or (c) roll their own email server from the command line.

    I'm tempted with c, but being able to give a less technical user control to manage accounts/forwarders for their domain doesn't seem possible if everything managed on the command line.

    Blaise Alleyne at 2015-12-02T23:45:33Z

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    I go with the command line but I did set up the GPLed version of Virtualmin for people to be able to manage their stuff on their own and make my life a little easier. (Be careful because there is both a free and proprietary version of Virtualmin.)

    Jason Self at 2015-12-03T04:18:18Z

    Yes, I mean the GPL version of Virtualmin.

    Do you use Virtualmin just for email then? Does it work okay when it's not managing everything?

    Blaise Alleyne at 2015-12-03T14:56:13Z

    Yes, it works fine for not managing everything. It seems very modular and configurable.

    Jason Self at 2015-12-03T16:12:52Z

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  • GNOME 3 and chat

    2015-11-24T14:43:48Z via Pumpa To: Public CC: Followers

    Any GNOME 3 users out there have recommendations for handling chat programs and notifications?

    With a few extensions, I've come to really enjoy GNOME 3, but the one experience that's still lousy is chat (XMPP or IRC). With Empathy, Pidgin, or Hexchat, I feel like the messaging menu doesn't work the same way that the old system tray style notifications used to work. It's so easy to miss notifications if you're not watching the screen. I find that I'm either compulsively checking the open applications, or more often I just simply don't use chat programs frequently any more because that compulsive checking is too distracting.

    I'd love to be able to leave the programs open and have confidence that I'll see if there are messages waiting without having to check. Any suggestions for applications or extensions or ways of handling those notifications for XMPP / IRC in GNOME 3?

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    Maybe have a look at Polari (gome IRC client)?

    mray at 2015-11-24T19:54:54Z

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    got the same problem actually... tell us if that extension is usefull in the end then ;)

    olm-e at 2015-11-25T15:22:47Z

    So far so good with these notifications!

    It's a bit weird to have something flash that is not the place where the notifications are, but the blinking definitely helps to attract my attention to messages waiting (and to give me confidence if there aren't messages waiting, so I don't check compulsively).

    Also, with that confidence, moving back to Empathy with integration with the messaging menu. The downside and the reason I'd stopped using it before is that I kept missing messages, but I think it's working now with the notifications extension.

    Blaise Alleyne at 2015-11-25T22:32:33Z

    installed too, seems great so far ... thanks :)

    olm-e at 2015-11-26T10:03:16Z

  • 2015-11-24T14:39:47Z via Pumpa To: Public CC: Followers

    A few days ago, in the car, Noah [4 years born] does a little bit of sarcastic parenting.

    I gave Mara [2 years born] a timbit (for the uninitiated, tiny donut hole).

    • Mara: ma-moe! [more]
    • Me: If you eat some real food, you can have another.
    • Mara: Oh! [no!] Ma-moe! [more!]
    • Me: Nope, sorry.
    • Mara: MAH-MOE!!!! MAH-MOE!!!! AHHHH!!!!
    • Me: ...
    • Mara: cries Mah-Moe! shriek Ma-Moe Ma-Moe!!!
    • Noah: Mara, do you... do you... do you tink dat... dat yelling is going to get a timbit into your hand? Do you? Do you have a timbit in your hand now

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  • 2015-11-21T03:52:08Z via Pumpa To: Public CC: Followers

    Jeff Buckley: Dido's Lament. Just, wow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA5UAbl1OWY#t=17s

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    One of my favorite voices.

    Greg Grossmeier at 2015-11-21T04:08:50Z

  • Submitted a presentation proposal to Libre Planet

    2015-11-10T21:17:37Z via Pumpa To: Public CC: Followers

    I've submitted to Libre Planet in March to haul my gear out from Toronto and demo my free software multi-instrumental live music rig. If my presentation is accepted, crossing the border will be fun!

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  • Friday I perform live music powered by free software at FSOSS in Toronto!

    2015-10-28T23:07:57Z via Pumpa To: Public CC: Followers

    I'm super excited for my talk/performance at FSOSS on Friday: Building a Free Software Multi-Instrumental Live Music Rig.

    Just like I did at Software Freedom Day in Toronto, I'm planning to perform three songs, and in between talk about all the software I'm using under Debian and KXStudio from software synths to SooperLooper to guitar sound processors, etc. I'll be bringing my violin, bass guitar, electric guitar, and acoustic guitar, and using Fabla to button mash some drums. Just bought a USB class compliant Keith McMillen SoftStep 2 foot controller to be able to manage SooperLooper with my feet instead of through clicks.

    This will be a big milestone on my new journey to bring libre tech into my music.

  • Google snuck surveillance code into Chromium?

    2015-10-27T19:11:51Z via Pumpa To: Public CC: Followers

    How did I miss this in June... http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/06/not-ok-google-chromium-voice-extension-pulled-after-spying-concerns/

    And to Chromium, not Chrome...

    I use Chromium as a secondary browser, mostly as a sandbox for Google/Facebook applications. But sometimes I get lazy and start doing a lot more browsing in Chromium if I don't have IceWeasel open. This radically changes my feeling of Chromium...

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    @balleyne@identi.ca but what is to worry about? Problem found, problem resolved. Exactly the way this process is supposed to work.

    Stephen Sekula at 2015-10-27T21:04:53Z

    Apparently Google is a front for the NSA.

    jrobertson at 2015-10-27T21:30:56Z

    I don't think this was the way the process is supposed to work. Google sneaking something nasty into the free software version that's intended for the proprietary version, and it being discovered through the Debian bug reporting process after it's already been pushed into "production" on user's computers?

    This radically changes my perspective on how Google views Chromium. While I'm not necessarily concerned about this specific problem, I'm very concerned about what this says about Google's practices with Chromium development.

    Blaise Alleyne at 2015-10-28T02:28:01Z

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  • FSOSS Talk Approved: Building a Free Software Multi-Instumental Live Music Rig

    2015-10-09T18:29:36Z via Pumpa To: Public CC: Followers

    Looks like my FSOSS talk was accepted on building a free software multi-instrumental live music rig!

    Guess that means I need to prepare...

    Congrats, and do prepare please

    Kete Foy at 2015-10-09T22:28:50Z

    I gave the same presentation at a local event last month, so preparing should just be a matter of ironing out the kinks! Just only a few weeks notice to do so...

    Blaise Alleyne at 2015-10-10T01:11:24Z

    Sounds good. That will probably help you do well

    Kete Foy at 2015-10-10T01:41:38Z

  • Thunderbird has... 1-2% Market Share?

    2015-10-05T16:10:50Z via Pumpa To: Public CC: Followers

    I knew Thunderbird had low market share... but for some reason I'm still pretty surprised to see only 1% from 2012 or 2% from 2015.

    I guess everyone just uses webmail anyways... it'd probably be more meaningful to ask what percentage of the desktop mail client space Thunderbird has... since that's already a minority of users.

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    In my workplace (University Engineering School, ~300 users) we recommended Thunderbird for Windows users (although we allow them to install the one they choose) and I think we have had more than 40% share.


    Two years ago our webmail system migrated to RoundCube (yay!) and since then, many people just used webmail. Many others, unfortunately, configured their (University) account in the Gmail webmail (IMO it should be forbidden to do that, specially for teachers/researchers, but it's difficult to get those policies written, and even if yes, more difficult get people following the policy).


    This year I would say we keep at least 25% share in Windows desktops, but I have no actual figures (just estimating from the user help desk requests).


    I've never seen a Windows user that migrates from other client to Thunderbird regret that decision later (except for the migration to webmail cases).

    Laura Arjona at 2015-10-05T17:44:20Z

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    I wonder where mutt (or others like alpine) figures.
    Yeah webmail is defacto people don't get that email should have its own dedicated desktop application, I didn't. It's until disruption begins.
    mozilla is plummeting, be it firefox or thunderbird.
    thunderbird has rivals in claws and sylpheed, both recommended by crypto tools, like gpg and gpg4win and co.

    testbeta at 2015-10-05T19:16:14Z

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    Yeah, that's true -- there are some communities with huge uptake, and even a small percentage of email users is still millions of people worldwide when the pie is as big as "email users."

    Blaise Alleyne at 2015-10-05T20:01:51Z

    I use Enigmail with Thunderbird, but yeah, Thunderbird has been pretty stagnant for years now...

    Blaise Alleyne at 2015-10-05T20:02:24Z