@kev@pumpyourself.com @frymo@microca.st short of promising them a "new shiny something" if the do I don't know. I've Bern trying for years to get people to care. The apathy of the general population is appalling, and seriously disheartening. I convert the few I can those that wont listen I've learnt not to waste too much time on.. it's to draining trying to convince those that just don't care.