mray INACTIVE

Rant-Warning: Savannah!

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I feel pitty when visiting https://savannah.gnu.org/ .

There probably are many projects hosted there that deserve a better representation.

It is like a website-worm-hole that lets you witness the web from the past with your modern browser and current content.

The idea that this should be the "...central point for development, maintenance and distribution of official GNU software..." makes me shudder.

I know I never spent longer than 20 seconds on that page just because of the walls of text and information overload and can only imagine what it means to really *work* with it. Maybe I'm getting it all wrong? I mean Github feels superior to Gitlab from a UX perspective, but savanna makes me wonder if this is for real. To me this page spells in clear words: "GO AWAY - BIT ROT - CONTAGIOUS - HERE BE DEAD PROJECTS".


What bugs me the most is that I actually care about quite some projects that are "hosted?" there and I wonder what drives the fsf to dogfood this strange thing instead of using something else.


*sigh*

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You are completely right to bring this up in its defense. Because it does not only appear to be – it actually *IS* very old. I also see how it is too much to ask from the 2? people keeping it up and running to also keep updating and actively developing it.

mray INACTIVE at 2017-04-06T09:17:07Z

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By coincidence I read on reddit that there is a gitlab mirror of savannah: https://gitlab.com/GNU/ ...

mray INACTIVE at 2017-04-06T11:33:23Z

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>> mray:

“[...] and I wonder what drives the fsf to dogfood this strange thing instead of using something else. [...]”

IIRC they've discussed this themselves, and I think part of the reasoning was that, even if awkward to use and old-looking, it had several functionalities they still couldn't replicate with other systems (yet). Plus it works without JS or any other fancy thing, so compatibility with, let's say "uncommon setups and workflows" is higher.


But don't take my word for it, it's just something I vaguely recall. I might be mixing things up.

JanKusanagi @identi.ca at 2017-04-06T14:03:34Z

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Non-JS compatibility is a biggie.

clacke@libranet.de ❌ at 2017-05-02T02:11:07Z