What is Debian all about, really? Or: friction, packaging complex applications

This weekend, those interested in Debian development have been having a discussion on the debian-devel mailing list about "What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?"...

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liw makes a lot of points that I fully agree on (as people who has heard me ranting on the topic in the past already knows.

Also, get out of my lawn, or something