Erkan Yılmaz erkanyilmaz@identi.ca
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Laura Arjona Reina at 2013-09-16T09:07:45Z
Dear #freesoftware and #identica quiet friends
I can understand that some of you just wanted microblogging with a Twitter Bridge, and identi.ca and the pump.io network right now offer other kind of things.
I understand that some of you don't want to setup a status.net server (in fact, setup any server), and prefer to use third party services.
But, if this is your case, why didn't you sign an account in other status.net public server (for example, I'm in quitter.se/larjona ) and keep on microblogging from there? Why you just moved to Twitter, and grow the sad, centralized internet?Jim Fulner, Luis, tradem, McScx and 14 others likes this.
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I use Twitter to watch political folks banter back & forth as well as feed breaking news to my phone via SMS when I'm not near WiFi.
Centralized sites' stability:
Only for the top one to three sites in a category. Anyone who used Pownce or Jaiku (microblogging), Dodgeball or BrightKite (location) has seen their accounts and data vanish. Some did offer export, but export is of little use unless it can be re-imported elsewhere. Otherwise, hosted services (regardless of who hosts them or how centralized / decentralized the service) are subject to closure or modification at any time.
I use Twitter because:
I believe the original post is only about those who abandoned federated networks for Twitter when Identica made the PumpIO transition.
This is a valid question: If someone hates PumpIO enough to stop using Identica, why did they not join one of the public StatusNet instances? I can think of some reasons why someone might not do so:- Fear that another federated network host would shut down or switch software.
- The people they communicated with on Identica may have dispersed across multiple networks.
- They may have used Identica primarily as an open source interface for posting to Twitter.
- They may have already been using Twitter, in addition to one or more federated networks, and just dropped Identica from the lineup.
lnxwalt@microca.st:
I use Twitter because:
I believe the original post is only about those who abandoned federated networks for Twitter when Identica made the PumpIO transition.
Yes. The main sentence of my post was the first one: "Dear freesoftware identica quiet friends"Dear friends because I know them and I love them
Free software because they use and *promote* free software
identi.ca because they were identi.ca active users before the transition (and *promoted* the use of identi.ca as a free software microblogging platform)
Quiet because they are not using identi.ca now (or using it much much less than before) and they are not active in other free software microblogging platform. They just went to Twitter (they were there before too, but posting from identi.ca).
It makes me think that even creating an account in a server is a high barrier today.
I sent my post to identi.ca, quitter.se (and the fediverse), and from quitter.se it has been propagated to Twitter.
I was expecting some Twitter replies from people that we know each other , but the fact is that I obtained answers only from the StatusNet federation or from here the Pumpiverse.
I love you all, but you are already using freesoftware platforms for posting :)
Laura Arjona Reina at 2013-09-18T21:16:01Z
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I have my own version of status.net, but mostly to log statuses from xymon/hobbit, rather than my own federated microblogging site.
I already had twitter and I am ok using it, it's not that I do anything serious in it. I did not know about quitter.se, I should look into it, thanks for the information.
In my opinion, I think that one of the problems is the change of infrastructure that was introduced with pump.io, that made many of the existing clients for identi.ca obsolete. Although some of these were flexible enough to be used in other status.net installations, some were hard coded to talk to identi.ca
This is changing slowly, but it will take a bit until clients adjust to the new API, until then, it'll be a matter of waiting for the adoption to occur.
Paul Laroquod at 2013-08-18T13:00:46Z
This is my first time using the new interface, so I'm sorry that I don't know how to namecheck people and ended up posting the above notice twice. In answer to some of the comments above:
If you think I came here to rant, please recall that I came here to delete my account, and was thwarted.
If you think 'microblogging is transient' then I don't want to use any microblogging platform you would create. I don't even feel the need to explain why -- this is a no-brainer.
If you think I just don't understand free software, maybe free software just doesn't understand me and will therefore never win me over as a user -- didja ever think that maybe I have absolutely no obligation to be here? That's the way I think and the way most people think. But of course that isn't true, because plenty of people who make free software understand the importance of canonical URLs, in fact there is pretty much no one on the planet who is more anal about the importance of preserving canonical URLs than the free software crowd. I'd be VERY surprised if I were the first to complain about this.
As for other complaints about pump.io, about those I have no clue. I am using it for the first time yesterday and today.
Finally to Evan, thanks for the response, I do appreciate the personal interaction. The tests I did showed that both notice and conversation URLs were broken. You say you tried to perserve them, it clearly didn't work very reliably, this is months into your product cycle and the low priority you have shown this issue, even if you didn't intend for it to happen, combined with the inability to delete my account at this stage, kind of shows me where your bread is buttered and without wanting to get into a big debate over it (I don't want to return here really) your priorities do not match what I would want to see in a developer. Please do delete my account along with the others who have asked, to whatever extent possible in your system. I'm not going to stomp my feet if there are vestiges left over -- I just don't want to publically appear to be an active user anymore, because that signifies support.
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Andy C at 2013-07-29T13:05:33Z
identi.ca and StatusNet clients are not dead
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Finally, a Web interface for StatusNet.Evan Prodromou at 2013-07-29T13:43:29Z
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ostfriesenmärz at 2013-07-16T07:52:31Z
irgendwas philosophisches. alles stets im wandel begriffen und so. und warum manche sich einlassen und andere zum quitter werden?Erkan Yılmaz likes this.
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Quitter schaut sympathisch aus. Habe jetzt gerade meine Heimat bezogen auf einer pirati.ca - status.net Instanz. Ist auch nett da. Ich wollte mir quitter aber immer mal anschauen, weil genau wie Du sagst, scheint da ja auch noch was Philisophisches dahinter zu stecken. Es zieht ja schon einge Leute da hin.morgenland at 2013-07-16T08:12:31Z
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Ein anderer Grund könnte sein, dass einige vielleicht auch nur einen 140-Zeichen-Dienst wollen. Und das ist pump.io halt nicht.ostfriesenmärz likes this.
Könnte auch "Veränderungspsychologie" sein a la: lieber bei Altem bleiben (wo das, was ich gewohnt bin, auch funzt). Mehr als 140 Zeichen geht auch bei #statusnet, ansonsten ist halt quitter der am meisten genutzte und je mehr von dort posten, desto mehr melden sich wahrschl. dort auch an (#federated server Statistiken ganz unten: http://oracle.skilledtests.com/discussion_partners.html )Erkan Yılmaz at 2013-07-16T10:25:57Z
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danke für Eure antworten! gute argumente. finde den gedankengang sehr spannend, wer bis zu welchem punkt mitgeht und sich wann aus welchem grunde abhängt.
ghostdancer at 2013-07-10T20:48:25+00:00
fingering and Monica Bellucci in the same phrase, you're going to get a lot more attention for identi.ca :-)Erkan Yılmaz likes this.
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you are making proposals of fingering in public, shameless robot.Erkan Yılmaz likes this.
Evan Prodromou at 2013-07-10T14:57:08+00:00
Also, please: double-check that you have a valid email address for your identi.ca account. You'll need it to recover your password.Dvd Mrsdn, Erkan Yılmaz likes this.
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Jesus M. Gonzalez-Barahona at 2013-07-08T11:08:26+00:00
Analyzing the software that runs Wikipedia http://ur1.ca/ekhm9 Development dashboard by @Bitergia #swanalyticsErkan Yılmaz likes this.
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Sander at 2013-07-09T11:05:07+00:00
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@sandersch not rushing.. just waiting expectantly.. you know like a 5yo and christmas@sandersch why did you ( @erkanyilmaz ) favorite this dent?Sander at 2013-07-09T11:47:38+00:00
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Stephen Michael Kellat at 2013-07-07T23:27:06+00:00
This is beautiful: http://tx0.org/67iErkan Yılmaz likes this.
Marcio B. Jr. at 2013-07-09T01:10:41+00:00
@erkanyilmaz It's better when he makes love to stepfather's legs :-)Erkan Yılmaz likes this.
@erkanyilmaz Old man trying to push him away but that dog just hangs tight xDMarcio B. Jr. at 2013-07-09T01:12:34+00:00
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Marcio B. Jr. at 2013-07-09T01:12:34+00:00
@erkanyilmaz Old man trying to push him away but that dog just hangs tight xDErkan Yılmaz likes this.
Marcio B. Jr. at 2013-07-09T00:55:16+00:00
BTW it's been almost 90 minutes Max is incessantly making love to his blanket.Erkan Yılmaz likes this.
I think Bia washed it with some new product with a new perfume or something.Marcio B. Jr. at 2013-07-09T01:00:56+00:00
@hgfernan Markie D. (aka @question) is learning about the world. It's our role to teach him (her?) (I would frankly avoid "it") everything.Hilton Garcia Fernandes, Erkan Yılmaz likes this.
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Alessandro Cosentino at 2013-07-08T22:13:39+00:00
A simple and yet deep observation: http://ur1.ca/ekobuErkan Yılmaz likes this.
zoowar at 2013-07-07T07:24:54+00:00
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---pation!Joel Adamson at 2013-07-07T19:52:52+00:00
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@zoowar Dreaming about the notice "Identi.ca is converting... Aah never mind."Marcio B. Jr. at 2013-07-07T19:58:45+00:00
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Good things come to those who ... wait.gdk at 2013-07-08T08:50:24+00:00
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Better yet, "sometime in 2013".Marcio B. Jr. at 2013-07-07T08:22:27+00:00
@erkayilmaz Haha it's nice when they use that huge garden hose :D we feel like very important flowers :DErkan Yılmaz likes this.
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