
Bits from Debian: Debian announces partnership to sub-contract publicity and press to an outside marketing agency
Debian Project at 2016-04-01T07:10:05Z
Link to original post: Debian announces partnership to sub-contract publicity and press to an outside marketing agencyLast year we started to push more of Debian news and information away the single news source of the DPN into other media services. Debian has been more active than ever on our many IRC channels, free software based social networks, and unofficial Twitter and Facebook feeds. Today we have decided to announce the next stage in keeping Debian at the forefront of media by sub-contracting publicity and press to an outside marketing agency.
The marketing agency (name will be disclosed soon) has provided an AI system (running entirely with free software) which will be fed with all the content of Debian mailing lists and sources.debian.net to understand the character of the Debian community and then better customize future articles, interviews, and event news.
However, some bits of personal information are also needed. Please install the "publicity" package and you'll be presented a form to fill in your data: name, surname, phone, snail mail address, place of birth, names of family members, employers or employees. Each person providing their data to the agency will receive coupon for a 20% discount in the download (purchase) of next Debian release (valid only for downloads from the official site www.debian.org).
We kindly ask every Debian community member to sign up in, at least, one of theses services: Twitter, Whatsapp, Slack or Facebook (IRC, mailing lists, and free software based RTC are allegedly not so 'cool'). Users need not be concerned with losing the features that the IRC bots provide (so long KGB!) as they will be replaced by Tay-like AI systems. The most visible change will be that MeetBot will no longer log the meetings anymore, but we have bribed an NSA employee so they pass the relevant messages to us.
"If this 'centralization, outsourcing and pay-and-forget' approach goes well with publicity, I'm considering running for DPL in 2017 to extend this model to other areas of Debian" said Laura Arjona Reina, (now) former publicity delegate.
A new logo and mascot has been designed too, as a symbol of this new era embracing the standards of branding and corporate messaging. Please consider voting in favor of it, in the General Resolution that will be proposed soon:
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Yes, yes, well said!
I'll register with Facebook and Twitter right now to support this righteous cause! =)
JanKusanagi at 2016-04-01T12:15:45Z
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@debian@identi.ca It would be interesting to have statistics about how many people has already followed the instructions to get a 20% off. Also I think that you could have done it better, a 50% would have been more appealing ;-)
Welcome back Firefox!
Debian Project at 2016-03-10T22:14:17Z
RIP Iceweasel, 13 Nov 2006 – 10 Mar 2016, Firefox is coming back to Debian!
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Maybe instead of killing iceweasel, the browser is coming out of cold legal limbo and morphing back into its naturally fiery state.
Diane Trout at 2016-03-11T07:15:30Z
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human interest details
ISumaTV is doing content distribution in Northern regions of Canada using git-annex, and free software built on top of it. I like to imagine this involves bush planes and dog sleds and satellite receivers with my software on them, but I really don't know the human-interest details.
We programmers so rarely do, often all we get to see is the bug reports..
http://www.isuma.tv/media-players-network and http://isuma-media-players.readthedocs.org/en/latest/design.html are an interesting reads anyhow.
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the hard drives and machines are usually shipped by planes, and the uplink is satellite... there way more folklore than we like to think up there... a lot of the original culture is being lost in our globalized nightmare, unfortunately... which is exactly one of the things isuma is trying to adress!The Anarcat at 2015-06-03T03:29:58Z
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Stefano Zacchiroli at 2015-02-06T13:33:52Z
~1,8 GB of ~180'000 #debian/copyright files compressed to a 12 MB .tar.xz files: not bad at all… #embarassingCompressibilityJakukyo Friel, Douglas Perkins, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer, sazius likes this.

My nephew has been learning to code and he asked for a laptop with Linux after somehow managing to write python programs on an Android phone.. So I'm giving him one today.
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Stefano Zacchiroli at 2015-01-09T08:11:05Z
#NewYork state provides tax credit for #FOSS development http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/S161-2015Jakukyo Friel, Nicola Busanello, Kete Foy, Mike Linksvayer and 7 others likes this.
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Stefano Zacchiroli at 2014-12-20T13:41:15Z
crossed the 200 #Debian #RCBugs mark https://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ (going down, that is ☺)Stephen Michael Kellat, lostson, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer likes this.
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Stefano Zacchiroli at 2014-12-08T10:18:13Z
#Debian #Jessie has half the #RCbugs of Wheezy http://bit.ly/15Z8jnd (via @planetdebian) ← time to test upgrades & report backsazius, Lars Wirzenius, Stephen Michael Kellat, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer and 2 others likes this.
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Karl Fogel at 2014-12-03T21:28:35Z
I just joined @Conservancy's new Supporter program. Why haven't you? (Oh, you have? Great! Tell everyone!) http://sfconservancy.org/news/2014/dec/03/Software-Freedom-Conservancy-Launches-Supporter-Pr/Jakukyo Friel, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer, Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠), Stefano Zacchiroli and 3 others likes this.
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Debian init system GR
gregor herrmann at 2014-11-19T22:09:45Z
Russ Allbery on what the result of the Debian init system coupling GR means: https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2014/11/msg00079.html - I very much like this interpretation.
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@cwebber I hear Tony The Tiger's voice in reading your response.Jason Self at 2014-11-20T04:02:49Z
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Debian's developer community decides, that no GR is needed on systemd. Outcome is 4>2>3>1>5
Debian Project at 2014-11-19T01:15:29Z
Debian's developer community decides, that no General Resolution is needed on systemd. Voting outcome is 4>2>3>1>5.
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Stefano Zacchiroli at 2014-11-13T17:42:27Z
thanks Jonathan and @lwnnet for their important contribution to #sanity http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/619992/f1a0719d328a1950/Raúl Benencia, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer, Stephen Michael Kellat, Christine Lemmer-Webber and 4 others likes this.
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almost as if it were written in a mainstream language and had users too
Recent propellor contributions I've received and merged this week: Firewall module, nginx support, prosody support, tor hidden service support!
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Anti-Systemd trolls doing a good job of selling systemd
Christine Lemmer-Webber at 2014-10-20T22:05:54Z
Whether or not you like systemd (I am mostly positive, have some mixed feelings, explained below, but am mostly uninformed enough to just trust others' decisions), nobody is doing a better job of making systemd look good than the anti-systemd crowd right now.
I trust the Debian process, and systemd looks good for a lot of things. I actually do share some worries others have, but not too strongly (I wonder: what will Guix do if applications become more systemd dependent... will the project give up on GNU dmd as an init system? And also, will this make it hard for "container'ed" applications a-la docker harder? (Answer seems to be yes)). But I will also fully say: I just don't know enough. And again, having watched the Debian process from here, for Debian, I couldn't be more sure that the process went well. And I would love to convert my init scripts over to systemd's init system, that stuff looks a lot nicer.
Nonetheless, I'm nervous to express any of the above... it's hard to not look like I'm not some kind of anti-systemd person. And given that the anti-systemd crowd seems to be about as poisonous as (and even seems to share actual overlap with) "gamergate" type poisonous people... well... who wants to be associated with those jerks?
And whether or not concerns I have are founded/unfounded, I hope systemd and friends continue to improve... it certainly seems like valuable software in most respects.
BTW, I couldn't care less about the "unix philosophy"... my favorite programs seem to be Emacs, Firefox/Iceweasel, Blender, which are all attacked for violating the Unix philosophy, and all work great, maybe even because of it.
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They aren't really trolling and not everyone can code. It is really annoying to see the equivalent of "Pull request of STFU" in these discussions.
There is a serious disagreement about the direction of most of the well-known Linux-based operating systems and one group feels their concerns are being ignored. I personally would prefer to see some kind of live and let live resolution instead of Debian-fork / Arch-fork / Fedora-fork and so on.
I understand some of the concerns of that group (as noted above), but I'm still giving systemd a third shot.
The debate sometimes seems like a battle of strawmen.
mcnalu at 2014-10-21T22:07:36Z
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its central control, I can see it expanding to package management and a host of things. I like debian. The very simple point I saw posted , people think there should be a choice, what they use, and being american I agree, choice. from what i have seen of systemd it can control the whole box, and would seem to give an attacker, one goal.ITs far more than trolls and this is people trying to down play it or discredt, the people pointing out Its a total and complete central control for linux, and who ever controls systemd will control your box, I bet the Chinese are very happy
I have seen a few webs sites about this. either way I wont be using it ever , I will use BSD. I dont like central control. Personally I think this goes complete against what debian believes as a distro. I also think in the end it will be terrible for linux, because already, its being made where you have to have it, it will limit people in the end
Separation of concerns. That's the core of the issues people have with systemd and I fully agree. Systemd does cool stuff, no question. And sometimes you have to break old abstraction layers to get cohesion. But Lennart et al don't even try to excuse the stuff they are bundling together, they seem to just do whatever seemed to be a good idea at the time. Unable to discuss, busy coding. There's no design here, no philosophy, just action. It's no surprise here that BSD people are the ones reacting, this is the pinnacle of the philosophy conflict between the BSD and Linux camps. I'll have to admit, the Linux camp has definitely been more successful in gaining market share, so maybe it's no surprise that systemd has suddenly taken over the major Linux distros.
What systemd does achieve is to kick up some dust, and several other teams are trying to find what's useful and not and put things together in a more conservative and compartmentalized way. Ubuntu did the systemd-shim, but have now switched to systemd. nosh*, which I've mentioned earlier, and which I personally think looks promising, does a daemontools-like approach but with an eye toward systemd.
* http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jonathan.deboynepollard/Softwares/nosh.html
Meanwhile, Slackware, which doesn't even use libpam because it's too bloated or whatever, will never use systemd, so you know there's always an escape route. :-)Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) at 2014-10-22T09:06:29Z
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Debian Project at 2014-05-13T10:05:37Z
it takes more than 85 different services to run a distro like Debian!
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Stefano Zacchiroli at 2014-05-06T09:48:03Z
completed my registration for #debconf14 http://debconf14.debconf.org/ YAY!Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer likes this.

Stefano Zacchiroli at 2014-05-03T20:10:43Z
Dear Erich Schmidt,[…] http://www.axelspringer.de/dl/433625/LetterMathiasDoepfnerEricSchmidt.pdf — monumental open letter by Alex Springer CEONicola Busanello, François Marier, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer likes this.
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Stefano Zacchiroli at 2014-03-15T14:41:57Z
I've recently celebrated my 13 years as a #Debian developer — wow, time fliesaether, Faisal Rehman, sazius, Mike Linksvayer and 4 others likes this.

Congrats!
You're now a teenager DD =)
JanKusanagi at 2014-03-15T15:10:27Z
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I recently experienced my 15 years of thinking at the beginning of each year: "I really should contribute enough to Debian this year so that I might be able to become a Debian developer".
Your accomplishment is much more impressive, Stefano. :)
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Quote of the Day
gregor herrmann at 2014-02-11T22:23:35Z
"We, the Debian project, can't let that happen. Fun is
serious business for us: without it we can't get anything
much done."(Lars Wirzenius in https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/02/msg00475.html )
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“Wear a t-shirt saying "I don't want to talk about Debian and init systems, but I'm interested in backups"”
xD
JanKusanagi at 2014-02-12T00:17:41Z
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Planet Debian en Español at 2011-01-22T18:35:20+00:00
Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer: Cuenta regresiva para Squeeze - http://bit.ly/hkx0wPLisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer likes this.
